Our defiance of Johnson’s wish to hide LGF’s old Fjordman articles continues, and this time we’ve decided to unveil the thread on the list that received the most comments. ( There’s 542 in total, many [deleted], but a baker’s dozen belong to Fjordman in this one.)
Scan the LGF daily archives on June 30, 2006, and you might notice that article # 21845 isn’t there:
The Boiler Room Crew stole the strawberries, so we proudly present the thread, in its entirety:
During our recent quest to gather data on LGF’s vast list of blocked accounts, The Boiler Room discovered (or rather, was reminded of) the fact that the number of comments listed in any particular user account profile doesn’t include their [deleted] comments. And as Nodrog pointed out a while back, there are many prominent ex-LGFers who’ve had their entire commenting history scrubbed from the LGF archives. This becomes a complication if one is trying to quantify the contributions of these persona non gratas with relation to the site’s upcoming 9 million comment milestone (where those [deleted] comments are included in CJ’s grand total).
Not to worry, however, as engineer No. 4 was on the case and had it all figured out. Below is the spreadsheet file for the top 27 banned and [deleted] (or those who had more than 50 posts; No. 4 counted 252 accounts in all, but 132 of those posted just once, so we’re ignoring the rest for now):
As you can see, those 27 accounts contributed another 256,882 [deleted] comments to overall total. So, if you add our latest “non-[deleted] comments of the banned” total to this “top [deleted] comments of the banned” total, we get a little over 45% of the current overall total comments:
3,793,792+256,882/8,964,531 = 0.451855652013474
And again, we know there are more comments of the banned out there. These lists are by no means exhaustive, and we keep finding more. Also keep in mind that it is more difficult to quantify comment data from the pre-registration era (up to mid-’04), as there were no accounts (and thus, no profiles) back then. So, at this moment, when we say 45%, we mean at least 45%.
But perhaps the most interesting revelation from this [deleted] list is the fact that these 27 accounts leave over 120 thousand positive net karma behind.
Bonus quiz: Did you notice that buzzsawmonkey and song_and_dance_man both have one (1) comment left standing in the archives? Well, why? (and try not to burn a sock)
[Guest Post: Swamprat!]
I never said St. Pancake! And you can’t prove I did. ’Cause… cause… well just nevermind why you can’t prove it! Oh. Well, I said it once and deleted it.
No one was ever banned for simply disagreeing with me… except for taxfreekiller and song-and-dance-man and mandymanners and several people who said they liked Rush Limbaugh on one thread and a guy who unfairly dissed a musican I am fond of and anybody who is a creationist, ’cause I disagree, and anyone who doesn’t believe exactly as I do about global warming, and though I have implied some pretty broad slanders against Christians in general and Catholics in particular I won’t tolerate any broadbrush anti-muslim sentiments and I don’t like specific, provable critiques either.
So I am completely fair.
Unless you blog at a blog I have blogged against even when I previously blogged in favor of those blogs. Anyone caught blogging at an abrogated blog will be banned, unless they are on a mission to racism bait, or troll. In that case they will usually get banned, unless I really really like them, and they generally keep within the lines and don’t stray.
But if you get banned, or flounce, or just leave, everybody knows you are simply a tribalistic racist.
(with deep and sorrowful apologies to Julie Andrews’ “Supercalafragilisticexpialidocious!”)
*Super Racist Tribalistic Ex L G F Stalkers!
Even though they’re really just a bunch of laughing mockers!
If you’re thinking otherwise, you really are quite bonkers!
Super Racist Tribalistic Ex L G F Stalkers!
(Feel free to add on!)
[Illustration courtesy of the Hon. Internet Septic Tank Engineer who, in quick response to recent requests for an image of Charles Johnson’s head on a pike, provided that graphic for all the honest and truthful bloggers of the world to enjoy, on his own dime and without request for recompensation.]
Anyone who’s been following The Diary of Daedelus knows that The Boiler Room Crew has been very busy these past few months, and now it’s time to give them a reprieve. To be sure, they’ve passed a few messages up the seekrit shaft, yet they’ve never requested a break. They’re long overdue for shore leave.
Two home runs in the span of a pancake is above and beyond the call of duty in this reporter’s opinion. They’ve secured, hidden and camouflaged The World’s Greatest Blog Search Engine™, opened the blacked out windows and are airing the place out so it’ll be nice and fresh when they come back to tackle the next assignment in the hopper.
Congrats and Kudos, Dudos. You’ve caused jaws to drop in stunned amazement all over the internest.
Aw c’mon! We could hardly wait for the story about how his smug, “simple fact” insistence that he never said and didn’t approve of the term was just an honest mistake, and that he didn’t remember saying it, didn’t remember deleting it, and didn’t remember the subsequent YEARS of other lizards taking his official christening and using it in hundreds of comments without any hint of disapproval from him.
That would’ve been a good one!
We’ll hold on to the hope, though. In the meantime, well, I know it’s not a pancake, but in this situation I think a waffle is just as appropriate.
Oh, wait’s over, I guess. The explanation was already made in that thread, but CJ made it official by tweeting it later:
OK this is funny. Let’s do some more fact checking, eh?
Point 1- CJ says he has a timestamp of the deletion (?), but won’t reveal how long it was really there. Now, based on visible timestamps, we know that it was there at least long enough to be quoted in the thread (4 min). We also know that there were 118 comments in that thread, that the last of which showed up 4 days later, and none mentioned a missing comment or any expression of regret from Johnson. Alternatively, there were comments in that thread that support our thesis that this is when “St. Pancake” was christened, and became the official nickname for Corrie on LGF:
Therefore, I don’t know if any reasonable person would characterize CJ’s comment as “insignificant”, given the facts about the term’s long history on the site.
In fact, The World’s Greatest Blog Search Engine™ could find no evidence of Charles’ regret for using the term, or mentioning of the comment’s deletion. All we know is that it was stealthily [deleted] at some point, and that signs of disapproval of the nickname’s use didn’t appear until about 7 years later (2010).
Point 2- While it is understandable that no one would remember the content of every comment that they ever posted, it would also follow that one wouldn’t remember that they didn’t say something, right? So, why would an honest person unequivocally (and repeatedly) deny saying something? Answer: They didn’t say it, and knew for a fact that they didn’t. And a dishonest person? Answer: they did, and (thought they had) erased it.
Bottom line: If one actually didn’t remember saying something specific like that, as CJ now claims, we’d expect the comment to still be there, and/or we would have seen “I don’t remember saying that” instead of the repeated and matter-of-fact denials (and on the issue of memory, the distinction should be made between the tens of thousands of Charles’ comments that stand, and the handful that were deemed worthy of deletion; people usually remember things they regret doing).
Point 3- The World’s Greatest Blog Search Engine™ could find no evidence of anyone actually being banned for “constantly” using the term “St. Pancake”. There’s a lot of comments to sift through, so it still might have happened, but we pointed out more than a few of today’s regulars who had used the term repeatedly (and some quite vivaciously) over the years, and are still in good standing.
Point 4- Waste of time? Heh. Keep digging CJ. This is fun. But are you sure you really want to keep going with this in front of your old-timers, especially the ones who’ve said it?
Having recently discovered what should go down as the most notorious [deleted] comment in LGF history, we shall begin our campaign to liberate this pithy wonder from the bowels of the memory hole, and petition CJ to release it for all time (in the name of “integrity“). For the record, here is its address:
Or, for a link that works just as well, but because of CJ’s coding wizardry is so much more fun in the browser:
After all, like a big scratch on a classic automobile, this gaping hole mars what would otherwise be a pristine and perfectly readable thread, and hides the beginning of an era.
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