Charles Johnson’s Resident Apologist For Radical Islam: CuriousLurker’s 1st Comment on Little Green Footballs

Image By Curious Lurker of Little Green Footballs

CuriousLurker’s own avatar as it appears on Little Green Footballs

[The following is a Guest Post by Internet Septic Tank Engineer, BRC Master of The Archives, originally posted downstairs.]

A commentator’s first posts at LGF are usually fairly truthful I believe (unless it was one of us, then we lie like a rug).

08252503 36091 251 CuriousLurker Sat, Apr 3, 2010 4:13:21pm:

Curious Lurker 1st Post April 2010

[Look at what she’s become since – a rabid propagandist and defender of jihad – courtesy Charles Johnson & his Little Green Footballs. Related posts here. – Briareus]

For Amusement Only – A BRC Secret Exposed!

[From beneath the trap door behind The Blogmocracy Rec Room couch and hidden with the cat stuff comes this story from 2011. The Boiler Room Crew Engineer who forwarded it prefers to remain anonymous, but his initials are Bunk X. – Briareus]

Believe it or not, that’s NOT a photoshop. It’s a genuine screencap.

In the early days of The Boiler Room Crew’s escapades, many projects were discussed behind the scenes, and many were rejected. This was one that amused us privately, but never saw the light of day.

While some of the BRC Engineers were busy tunneling underneath the walls of Castle Chuck and stealing strawberries by the Gigabyte, another Engineer figured out how to scrape Charles’ posting-image code to produce FauxLGF screenshots containing whatever content we wanted. Another template allowed us to create FauxLGF comments that would look genuine, even to the big lizard himself.

These powerful templates were easy to use – just plug in the content in the various fields, post the html code in a draft file, preview the image and save a screencap. Voila! We had the power to create images of posts that never appeared on Little Green Footballs in any form, but would be indistinguishable from the genuine threads. (The image above was my own trial run, rediscovered while cleaning out old files. Apologies for the language.)

Shortly after the creation of this Generator, the Boiler Room Crew discussed what to do with it. All agreed that it shouldn’t be used for fake LGF screenshots and chicanery, not even for a satirical parody, because doing so would undermine the credibility of everything the BRC produced. Despite the hilarious fun we could have had with this awesome toy, the project was squelched.

We knew that posting the honest truth about Charles Johnson and Little Green Footballs, with authentic screen caps, verifiable statistics and quotes would do more damage to his credibility in the long run, and in the long run it was the correct choice.

See, Charles? Some people have ethics. The BRC could have burned your smarmy ass with the LGF Generator, but no. We’d rather burn your fat lying chairmuncher with your own words, and leave all the windows open while we do it, just so the rest of the blogosphere may enjoy the pungent aroma of a gamey burnt #rumpswab.

Courtesy of Dr. Bulldog

Dr. Bulldog recently stumbled upon the wonders of Diary of Daedalus after witnessing #brasnapper #rumpswab @Lizardoid repeatedly stepping on his own pugsley in front of the entire Twittersphere.

Every time I think that there’s nothing more to post about Charles Johnson & Little Green Footballs, either Chuck does something stupid (like that’s a rarity) or someone new shows up to the Mockery Party.

Thanks for the image, Doc. Stop by and say Howdy.

Celticdragon Said What?

Walter’s email dump has sure ruffled some proverbial (and literal, we’re guessing) feathers over at the swamp, to the point where we’re seeing loozards attempting to cope by just making stuff up in response.  Boiler Room Engineer ISTE thought that something didn’t sound right, so he fired up The World’s Greatest Blog Search Engine™, and chimes in to present tonight’s case-in-point:

Celticdragon said,

“My first encounter with Walter was my last. I found very quickly that he is mean, vindictive and nasty. I ignored him here at lgf after that and I refused to engage him in conversation.”

A very bold statement and it lets everyone know that Celticdragon knew straight away that Walter was mean, vindictive and nasty. Celticdragon then totally ignored Walter forever.

The first encounter,

Yep Ouch! However maybe this was the encounter Celticdragon means. Ten days later…

Or was this the famous encounter? Later that same day…

Celticdragon directly replied to Walter L. Newton a grand total of 52 times between Oct 2009 and May 2011

Oct 4, 2009 10:25:44am
Oct 14, 2009 8:42:48am
Oct 14, 2009 4:40:22pm
Oct 14, 2009 4:47:22pm
Oct 14, 2009 5:07:55pm
Dec 2, 2009 5:50:24pm
Dec 2, 2009 5:57:01pm
Dec 2, 2009 5:59:48pm
Dec 5, 2009 10:11:05am
Jan 5, 2010 3:50:25pm
Jan 5, 2010 3:51:18pm
Jan 5, 2010 3:52:35pm
Jan 5, 2010 3:55:59pm
Jan 5, 2010 3:56:35pm
Feb 24, 2010 4:15:11pm
Feb 27, 2010 11:09:31am
Feb 27, 2010 11:14:49am
Feb 27, 2010 11:23:41am
Feb 27, 2010 11:31:52am
Feb 27, 2010 11:33:15am
Feb 27, 2010 11:37:54am
Feb 27, 2010 11:42:37am
Feb 28, 2010 11:56:55am
Mar 4, 2010 3:16:13pm
Aug 16, 2010 8:45:25am
Aug 27, 2010 1:17:36pm
Sep 14, 2010 3:57:52pm
Sep 14, 2010 4:00:13pm
Sep 17, 2010 1:34:24pm
Sep 17, 2010 1:39:21pm
Sep 28, 2010 2:40:16pm
Nov 28, 2010 8:20:54pm
Jan 10, 2011 6:29:27pm
Jan 10, 2011 6:44:00pm
Jan 10, 2011 7:04:49pm
Mar 9, 2011 5:35:47pm
Mar 12, 2011 6:27:34pm
Apr 6, 2011 11:36:07am
Apr 15, 2011 2:07:48pm
Apr 25, 2011 1:14:21pm
Apr 25, 2011 1:16:01pm
Apr 25, 2011 1:26:19pm
Apr 29, 2011 3:18:10pm
May 17, 2011 12:19:08pm
May 17, 2011 12:25:29pm
May 17, 2011 12:32:16pm
May 17, 2011 12:32:52pm
May 17, 2011 12:41:05pm
May 17, 2011 12:43:07pm
May 17, 2011 12:50:59pm
May 18, 2011 5:02:56pm
May 19, 2011 12:15:07pm

I think the last encounter with Walter is the one he means.

Hey celticdragon, the Boiler Room Crew want to kiss you too!



Courtesy of ISTE

Some people over at Little Green Footballs were suspicious of this front page post by STLActivist who is poster “Adam” over at http*://

Charles puts them at ease by telling them…

168 Charles
Sun, Oct 9, 2011 8:31:00pm

I invited St. Louis Activist to post at LGF — he’s been doing really good work fact-checking the Breitbart crowd at his blog:

So there you have it, Charles is now incapable of fact checking his way out of a wet paper bag that has a slit up the side and he is begging other bloggers to write articles for him.

Also, a bit of human interest here.. The target of the article is Dana Loesch who is bright, articulate and did the best Twitter slapdown I ever saw.

She realizes who he is, then Wham!

Ouch! 😆

Anyway, that explains why four months later Charles Johnson commissions an attack piece on Dana Loesch.

“He Who Fights With Girls” had better run and hide when Ms Loesch sees this.

The Lonely Island Of Little Green Footballs

Guest Blogger: Jay Tea

I discovered the world of blogs back in 2003, when I was looking for info on my favorite author. It turned out that another fan of his was Meryl Yourish, of, and I was immediately drawn into this new thing called a “blog.” Meryl was my gateway drug — it was through her that I discovered Wizbang, where I started dominating the caption contests until Kevin, Wizbang’s owner, held auditions for “guest bloggers” and I snagged an invitation that I’ve yet to wear out eight years later. (So yeah, my blogging career is built on fart jokes.)

Another blog Meryl praised highly — and quite rightfully so — was Little Green Footballs. I was instantly drawn in, reading it almost obsessively. But I never commented, as I felt I was way, way out of my league.

I followed Charles for years, using his postings as source material for countless articles — always with due credit and fulsome praise. He was one of the “big boys,” and I hoped to capture even a little bit of his reflected glory.

After several years, though, I found myself visiting LGF less and less. I didn’t really have any issues with the site, I just found it boring. I had developed my own little set of sites I found more interesting and useful. Oh, LGF was still incredibly useful and informative, but I found myself using the archives for specific purposes than seeing what he was up to lately.

And then the Great Wars started. Certain people Charles had spoken of highly before started drawing his ire. He forcefully and stridently denounced them for various and sundry things, and he started seeing “racism” and “hatred” everywhere among his alleged allies. And simply denouncing them wasn’t enough — he demanded the same of his loyal readers. If they said or did anything to indicate they didn’t think folks like Gates Of Vienna or Pamela Geller were anything less than evil incarnate, then they risked The Ultimate Sanction — banning.

I didn’t pay much attention to this, because I didn’t really follow those folks much, didn’t participate at LGF, and didn’t go to LGF much anyway. But it stuck in the back of my mind.

Then Charles started expanding his circle. He demanded allegiance in his fights from those who had pledged him no loyalty in the first place. He demanded other bloggers isolate and shun those Charles had declared EVIL, and if they didn’t, why then obviously they were just as EVIL as the first folks.

Then he declared his jihad on Robert Stacy McCain. Again, I didn’t follow the guy, so it didn’t faze me in the least. But Charles was so strident and forceful, I decided I ought to see if this guy was anywhere near as bad as Charles said he was.

You know what? He isn’t. In fact, he’s a damned good writer, very insightful, very entertaining, and very honest about his opinions. Recently, he came to New Hampshire to cover a Sarah Palin event, and I got to spend an afternoon with him — and damn if he isn’t a consummate professional and decent guy.

But then the final straw came — Killgore Trout’s midnight raid on Hot Air. For those who need a reminder (which might be one or two of you), Trout is one of Johnson’s most trusted “monitor lizards” and crack minions. Charles was frantically escalating a war with Hot Air (one that Hot Air really wasn’t interested in pursuing) when Trout went over there in the middle of the night and started posting very insulting, provocative statements loaded with racial epithets. Since it was about 1 or 2 in the morning, none of the Hot Air folks were around to moderate Trout’s tirades for some time — and the LGF crew documented it all. Then they posted it as “proof” of how Hot Air was really tolerant racists and racist language.

That was the final straw for Hot Air. They clamped down on all their own commenters and forcefully and permanently severed all ties with LGF — which basically consisted of a link on their blogroll that no one had bothered to clean up anyway.

That was also the final straw for me. I went over to LGF, used my login I hadn’t used in years, and denounced Trout’s move. I pointed out that Charles has a history of holding his commenters responsible for what they say on other sites (he’s banned people for not defending him on other blogs, but “tolerating” insults to him) and said that if Charles didn’t do something about Trout, then he — by his own standards — was responsible for Trout’s actions.

Naturally, that got me banned. As many of you know, things like “challenging Charles” or “embarrassing his trusted lickspittles” is probably the fastest way to banning.

I wasn’t surprised, but it still hurt a little. I went back to Wizbang and fired off an e-mail to Kevin — did we really want or need to keep LGF in our blogroll? He agreed, and it went away.

But that got me thinking about Charles’ mindset, and a few things clicked in my head — to the point where it all makes a kind of twisted sense. No, it wasn’t logical, but it did have an internal logic — it was self-consistent, and explained a lot of things that didn’t make sense on their own.

One of Charles’ biggest obsessions is the “guilt by association” game. If you are friendly, or even just associated with someone, then you are responsible for whatever they say or do — to the point where if you don’t actively denounce and distance yourself from them and their deeds, you are tacitly approving them. For example, if one of my fellow bloggers says something with that Charles finds offensive, then I have an obligation to renounce them and, if necessary, even pull a “it’s me or them” move that leads to one of us leaving the blog.

This would be very awkward at Wizbang, as I’m the sole pro-choice agnostic who supports gay marriage in a sea of devout, pro-life Christians. But we make it work.

Anyway, that’s Charles’ stance. And he carries it even to the point where bloggers are responsible for the comments on their blogs. If a commenter says something offensive, it is not only the right but the duty of the blogger to delete the comment — or they obviously “approve” of it. Even if the blog in question has, at the top of every comment page, a disclaimer like “Comments do not necessarily reflect the views of Little Green Footballs.”

So, what fuels this monomania with conformity, this seeing any signs of dissent or independence as treason? Others have — I think rightfully — described it as paranoia and insecurity. But that’s just the first level. There’s another level at play, I think, that shows how it’s all part of a consistent worldview.

In LGF, Charles has created a world where he is the supreme ruler. Others may enter his domain, but only at his sufference — this is his world, and all others are guests who must obey his rules or leave.

And that is how he sees all other domains on the internet. That’s how he runs his realm, and those who don’t follow his example are lazy — or out to get him by proving he’s wrong somehow.

The key here is his demands for loyalty through “guilt by association.” To most of the blogosphere, it’s a social domain. We have friends and allies and buddies, as well as adversaries and rivals and opponents. Some of us even end up friendly with those who routinely oppose us. The key here, however — the underlying concept — is that we are all part of something much larger.

Charles doesn’t see that way at all. To him, he is above (well, apart, but he thinks of it as above) all that. He doesn’t bother with friends and allies and associates and buddies because he doesn’t need them. To do so would be to acknowledge that there are those who share his realm who he does not and can not control. Simply put, there is no room in the LGF realm for those he can’t control.

Here’s the proof, the single element that crystallized it all for me. Where is Charles’ blogroll? Where is the list of sites he thinks are worthy of respect and attention? Who are his associates and blog-buddies and friends to whom he consistently links to, says kind things about, and shows his appreciation when they link him? In brief, who does Charles show that he even remotely thinks of as his peers, and who thinks of him that way?

The answer is, of course, no one. Because someone who Charles can’t control — such as, say, a commenter on his blog — could some day do something of which Charles will not approve. And Charles would have no leverage to demand that they retract it or apologize for it, as they are an independent force. So it’s just safer to take no such chances.

Now, I’ll freely admit that I’m not the best “linker” in the blogosphere. I read a lot of blogs, and I always make certain to give “hat tips” (a concept I learned from Charles, ironically), but in the Den Beste distinction of bloggers, I’ve always been more of a “thinker” than a “linker.” I don’t do “hey, look at what X wrote” — I do more of “I read what X wrote, and it got me thinking.” But as bad as I am, at least I try — something Charles simply can’t do.

Years ago, I read a quote by the Russian astronomer Konstantin Tsiolkovsky that stuck in my mind: “Earth is the cradle of mankind, but mankind cannot remain in the cradle forever.” In a sense, Charles runs a cradle on the internet — keeping his readers safely secured and locked up, protected from what he sees as the bad influences all over the internet. But the problem is, far too many people quickly outgrow their need for a cradle — but Charles isn’t interested in letting people explore out of his control. Stray too far, and you’re banished.

But back to the main point: Charles’ incredibly rapid decline is solely by his own actions. It’s been noted that “links are the currency of the internet,” and Charles is legendarily parsimonious in such things. So now, no one links to him favorably, and even mocking, derisive links are few and far between.

Charles, apparently, has embraced the “big fish in a small pond” principle to the point where he is the only fish in a cut-off, stagnant, fetid little backwater of what was once a mighty river. And he seems to like it — he’s put enormous effort into keeping himself cut off, and never shown the slightest interest in reconnecting with the main stream. In fact, he’s lashed out at those who once served as his connections to that main stream, driving them all away.

It’s clear what Charles wants. It’s to be left alone, with his sycophants who live in fear of his wrath, in his own little backwater where he allows nothing that comes close to questioning his absolute authority and absolute rightness. And after all these years, I’ve finally realized that — and have absolutely no interest in living by his rules, either in his little backwater or in the mighty river that is the rest of the Blogosphere.

I’d wish him well, if for no other reason of the good he once did (and all I learned from him), but any good Darwinist knows what happens to brackish, fetid ponds that are fiercely protected from the slightest amount of outside influence and contact. No, the best thing I can think of doing is to occasionally, sadly point to LGF and say “this is why Nature abhors inbreeding and isolation, and instead rewards those who embrace the diversity of fresh blood, fresh ideas, and free interaction.”

Tuesday Afternoon Video- “Charles Johnson and sycophants discuss the Twitter Wars”

*Waves to Dark Falcon* Make sure you watch this one right to the end, Mr. Mountain Lion™. 😛

(Guest video post by Emperor. For other classics, check out TheEmperorsChannel on youtube.)