Textbook Publishers stop the Creationist threat

Charles is gloating that Textbook publishes have said no to a Texas creationist group.

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Who cares?


92 Comments on “Textbook Publishers stop the Creationist threat”

  1. HaikuMan says:

    Yes, fight the right wing!
    Left wing indoctrination
    Is the way to go!


  2. rightymouse says:

    Climate change is science? LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!

  3. Because 1-800-MILYO says:

    Here’s reality. K-12 science textbooks have been garbage forever. Richard Feynman, circa 1964:

    … But the next day I got a telephone call from a pretty famous lawyer here in Pasadena, Mr. Norris, who was at that time on the State Board of Education. He asked me if I would serve on the State Curriculum Commission, which had to choose the new schoolbooks for the state of California. You see, the state had a law that all of the schoolbooks used by all of the kids in all of the public schools have to be chosen by the State Board of Education, so they have a committee to look over the books and to give them advice on which books to take.

    It was a pretty big job, and I worked all the time at it down in the basement. My wife says that during this period it was like living over a volcano. It would be quiet for a while, but then all of a sudden, “BLLLLLOOOOOOWWWWW!!!!” — there would be a big explosion from the “volcano” below.

    The reason was that the books were so lousy. They were false. They were hurried. They would try to be rigorous, but they would use examples (like automobiles in the street for “sets”) which were almost OK, but in which there were always some subtleties. The definitions weren’t accurate. Everything was a little bit ambiguous — they weren’t smart enough to understand what was meant by “rigor.” They were faking it. They were teaching something they didn’t understand, and which was, in fact, useless, at that time, for the child.

    I understood what they were trying to do. Many [Americans] thought we were behind the Russians after Sputnik, and some mathematicians were asked to give advice on how to teach math by using some of the rather interesting modern concepts of mathematics. The purpose was to enhance mathematics for the children who found it dull.

    I’ll give you an example: They would talk about different bases of numbers — five, six, and so on — to show the possibilities. That would be interesting for a kid who could understand base ten — something to entertain his mind. But what they turned it into, in these books, was that every child had to learn another base! And then the usual horror would come: “Translate these numbers, which are written in base seven, to base five.” Translating from one base to another is an utterly useless thing. If you can do it, maybe it’s entertaining; if you can’t do it, forget it. There’s no point to it.

    Anyhow, I’m looking at all these books, all these books, and none of them has said anything about using arithmetic in science. If there are any examples on the use of arithmetic at all (most of the time it’s this abstract new modern nonsense), they are about things like buying stamps.

    Finally I come to a book that says, “Mathematics is used in science in many ways. We will give you an example from astronomy, which is the science of stars.” I turn the page, and it says, “Red stars have a temperature of four thousand degrees, yellow stars have a temperature of five thousand degrees . . .” — so far, so good. It continues: “Green stars have a temperature of seven thousand degrees, blue stars have a temperature of ten thousand degrees, and violet stars have a temperature of . . . (some big number).” There are no green or violet stars, but the figures for the others are roughly correct. It’s vaguely right — but already, trouble! That’s the way everything was: Everything was written by somebody who didn’t know what the hell he was talking about, so it was a little bit wrong, always! And how we are going to teach well by using books written by people who don’t quite understand what they’re talking about, I cannot understand. I don’t know why, but the books are lousy; UNIVERSALLY LOUSY!


    Now a secret panel of experts says that we know with 95% certainty that there’s a very high likelihood that Chuckles Johnson is pulling this story out of his butt, and there are probably a lot of issues involved other than creationism, since, as Dr. Feynman said, “the books are lousy; UNIVERSALLY LOUSY!” And they’re this way because their target market is government schools, and things sold to government tend to be overpriced crap, because that’s what the government specifies.

  4. Octopus says:

    I just knew that “base 5 to base 7” crap was useless crap I’d never use in my whole life. 😆

    • rightymouse says:

      Useless & baseless. 😆

      • Anne Frank says:

        How did a Jew like Feynman escape the Nazis, anyway? He was probably helping them. He’s a big-time Denier, that’s for sure.

    • Because 1-800-MILYO says:

      Actually, that particular statement surprises me a little, since computer nerds use binary and hexadecimal all the time. But is that a reason to teach it to everybody?

      I think in 1964, he was probably still of the school that the entire world will only need five computers to do all its computing, and a few hundred programmers, max.

    • Because 1-800-MILYO says:

      Besides, 5 to base 7 is 5. It only gets weird when the number exceeds the base.

  5. Anne Frank says:

    I can’t believe the Nazi-stalkers have stolen my diary, and posted it all over. Now everyone’s reading my personal thoughts! It’s so creepy and disgusting. You stalkers are the worst people in the world, ever.

  6. rightymouse says:

    As many of you know, our son is a senior in a private school. Although they have been fabulous in teaching our son despite his LD, that has not stopped some teachers through the years from subjecting him to their moonbatty beliefs. The latest was the showing of the anti-fracking crockumentary “Gasland” in his ENGLISH class. Hubby hit the roof & contacted the teacher. She did not apologize and argued FOR showing the documentary, but the next thing we know, she showed the class “Fracknation” which refutes “Gasland”. Let the kids decide. We have no problem with that.

    • I wish we had more parents who challenged the teachers and their moonbatia. Instead, we have the type who cannot accept the fact that little Susie and Johnnie are weak students who don’t belong in either an Honors or AP level class. Don’t get me started on the parents with armies of lawyers for the kid’s IEP modifications. Oy, gevalt …

      • rightymouse says:

        We have an IEP for our son through the local school district. Fortunately, they have been very cooperative & we’ve never had any problems. Parents need to be realistic about how well their child is/is not doing and why, but most of all, KNOW YOUR CHILD. We did have to ‘fight’ early on with teachers/administrators/medical professionals who looked solely at his standardized test scores and told us he could not be educated. We knew our son and ignored the naysayers. He’s now a senior in a college prep HS & does A/B work. We weren’t willing to give up & neither was he.

    • iSpeakJive says:

      Yeah, I don’t have a problem with that at all. The students learned a lot about more than just fracking with that comparison. I hope an interesting discussion was had by all. As far as evolution. I wouldn’t be against doing the same thing. Let the students suss out lame-ass bamboozling from actual data.

      • Because 1-800-MILYO says:

        Ding. There’s no point in teaching science until you’ve taught the philosophy of science first. Unless you’re trying to produce an army of obedient bots.

        I remember Mr. Carrell’s 8th grade science class. It wasn’t about “this is how it is”, it was about “this is how you do it”. Once you know how it’s done, the facts are easy.

        But these days, they’re getting rid of lab entirely. What’s the point of exposing kids to those dangers when we can just tell them the answers, and they can memorize them?

      • gizbot7 says:

        One of the best teachers I ever had was my high school AP Bio teacher. Two of her favorite lines were: “Why is the sky blue?” (when one of us asked a question science couldn’t answer) and “Science is not an exact science.” She was awesome. The big-ass text book with tiny print and no pictures, not so much. 🙂

  7. Octopus says:

    Speaking of the shell-games being employed by the eco-hysterical con-artists of Climate Chaos OMG, here’s a very good, very readable article on same: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/10/18/life-in-a-climate-cataclysm-box/#more-95843

    Discusses my favorite recent tack of these charlatans, the wacky notion that all the “missing heat” is hiding deep-deep-DEEP in the oceans, biding its time before springing out later to cause Lewd-Wank’s billions to drown in their own salty tears and pee.


    Year after year, alarmists have changed their protective shells for more absurd answers regarding where the Earth has mysteriously stashed all the energy that greenhouse gases supposedly trapped. For years, alarmists said ocean waters were storing the missing energy. But when the ARGO project demonstrated that the heat was not in the ocean, at least down two kilometers (1.2 miles) beneath the surface, one prominent alarmist responded, “We are puzzled at the results.” We are not puzzled.

    When the data consistently conflict with their hypothesis, reputable scientists revise the hypothesis. Five-alarm climate scientists desperately seek new shells, and new excuses.

    The “puzzling” facts triggered the predictable alarmist tactic of attacking the data and claiming the heat was hiding in the really deep ocean. Ignoring the physics of the problem – how the asserted heat was transferred from atmospheric carbon dioxide, through the sea surface, and beyond the first mile of ocean waters, without being detected – they expect us to believe that fluid thermodynamics is akin to magic.

  8. Minnow says:

    ICYMI, every time you go over to Barry’s site, you are barraged with nonsensical base 7 pop-up ads.

    Didn’t we all learn they should be base 12 and violet?

  9. kbdabear says:

    I wonder if this nutjob is one of Bikey Jazzpants loyal followers?


    A person identifying himself as Troy Gilmore Jr., posted on Twitter Friday morning: “Take down Ted Cruz, at his home” and listed Cruz’s home address in Houston…

    The author of the threat uses the Twitter handle @ArmyVet54 and identifies himself as having served in the U.S. Army and Navy

    • Because 1-800-MILYO says:

      “The author of the threat uses the Twitter handle @ArmyVet54 and identifies himself as having served in the U.S. Army and Navy”

      Which means he’s some 23-yo illegal from Costa Rica.

    • iSpeakJive says:

      Isn’t that the logical conclusion for all of Chunky’s encitement to destroy Republicans?
      He’s doing exactly the same demonization of Republicans that he did for 7 years to Muslims.
      Anders Breivik was one result of that stellar effort.

    • dwells38 says:

      Which makes sense since the Tea Party advocates are for fiscal responsibility which requires at least basic math. People like that also read and use common sense and know a lie and a con when they see one which is all Chunk and the proggy commie left have to offer. A lying narrative to hide the goal of a top-down, government controlled totalitarian nighmarish existence not worth living.

  10. dwells38 says:

    Chunk’s such a POS to conflate creationism and the climate fraud. Evolution’s not going anywhere anyway. It IS settled science due to the giant mountain of fossil and dna evidence. If some people get creationism presented along with it won’t hurt it, anyway.

    Climate change is a hoax and a lie and being pushed by morons, conmen and capitalism hating leftist scum.

    Go tigers, BENGAL tigers, that is!!! 🙂 LOL! penis, penis, etc…

    • dwells38 says:

      Srsly looks like a good matchup between the Lions and the Bengals with the Lions having home advantage. Our defense has stunk in takeaways unlike the Lions so I’m not going to be surprised if we get mugged a few times. I have gin and green tomatos so no matter what happens it’ll be a good day.

      • iSpeakJive says:

        Green tomatoes? I have a whole bowl I brought in yesterday to see if they’ll ripen up. Have you discovered a way to make tomatoes into booze? Do tell!
        I make Martinis out of crushed basil and mint from the garden. Incredibly good.

      • Octopus says:

        This game’s going down to the final seconds, Dwells. Pretty evenly-matched teams.

      • dwells38 says:

        Ha! No no. I drink the gin, fry the tomatos and watch the games.

  11. Because 1-800-MILYO says:

    Stop and think a minute about what Chunk is saying here. He’s saying that it’s OK for government contractors to refuse government procurement specifications.

    So how does this work when the gov requires Catholic health care providers to provide abortion and birth control products and services? Is it ok for them to refuse?


  12. Because TFK, you magnificent bastard! says:

  13. I think your wife cares.

  14. Christian Conservatives are an existential threat to American sanity…maybe even more. They should not be allowed to own firearms, and tbey should be aggressively profiled by police at all levels of government.

    • rightymouse says:

      “profiled by police at all levels of government”

      Go away. You’re a moron.

    • trebob says:

      franksinclair :
      Christian Conservatives are an existential threat to American sanity…maybe even more. They should not be allowed to own firearms, and tbey should be aggressively profiled by police at all levels of government.

      Wow! Frank you are showing your true colours. You think it’s best to provide civil rights to only select preferred groups based on their religious or political ideologies and have the rest registered and monitored, possibly segregated, “aggressively” by the government.

      You are the problem with the United States. We as a nation have not taught our children what it means to be from the United States and what freedom means. Substitute the word “Jews” for Frank’s Christian Conservatives in that statement. How about “blacks/negros” or “Japanese”? Some Muslims would use the all-purpose “infidel”. This mentality has been seen throughout history, usually expressed by leftist, statists, socialists and Democrats as they seek to eliminate the rights of those who are ‘less deserving’ of those rights.

      It’s ironic that Frank comes over here to spout his nonsense and throw his little turds all around has the freedom to do so, but does NOT have the freedom to use his LGF nickname when he does so or the person he feels he is sticking up for will ban him from the swamp.

      • Because 1-800-MILYO says:

        And he’s not even any good at ‘yormama’ jokes… 🙄

      • rightymouse says:

        Unfortunately, “it’ won’t understand a word you’re saying, because “it’s” a totalitarian leftist. Also a scaredy-cat LGF poster who is afraid Daddy will take away its keys to leftist dysfunction.

    • Whatever man says:

      Hey Frank. I think you’re on to something. We could create a new federal police agency to do just that. But, at least at first, it should probably remain secret. So yeah, first we need some secret police.

      Once they’ve identified people they think may be conservative or Christian (gasp!), they could detain them for… further investigation. It would probably speed things up if they just asked people about their neighbors and co-workers. Yeah, that would be more efficient. (And some people just LOOK conservative, you know. And Christiany, you can just tell.)

      We’d need somewhere to detain them though. We might end up having to relocate quite a few undesirables lest they continue to dilute the purity of Progressive Thought. Maybe in camps. We’d round ’em up and concentrate them in these camps, out of sight and out of mind of the true defenders of the Fatherland. Of course, it’d be expensive to feed and house what could end up being a sizable rabble. We’ll need a final solution for that.

      Whadd’ya think, Frank?

      • rightymouse says:

        Make all of ’em wear a ‘cross’ badge. All of them, including Christian Conservatives of color.

  15. rightymouse says:

    icekoldebassman :
    Righty, I know from what you speak. I am a Special Ed/Gen Ed teacher of history in a rather excellent school district in northern NJ, and my colleagues and I have to sometimes make ‘changes’ to the curriculum and the materials. We do have, however, a few science teachers who are full-blown Leftoid Obamabots. I stopped eating the teacher’s caf because I could no longer stomach rebutting their schite.

    Bless you! Must drive you nuts! 😦

  16. Because who farted? says:

    Stank needs to see his doctor about his sleepsurfing.

  17. Because OMG Ponies says:

    Hey look, Chunk! White Southern Tea Partiers flying Nazi flags…


    Err… maybe they’re not Southern, and maybe not Tea Party, and maybe not white, but at least it’s a real Nazi Flag.

    • Octopus says:

      He’d never acknowledge a story like this now, but Fatass used to know all about the Nazi-Arab Connection: http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/20433_The_Nazi-Arab_Connection

      The Nazi-Arab Connection
      Charles Johnson
      5/07/06 2:34:30 pm • Views: 1,280

      Documents from the British National Archives show that in World War II, Nazi Germany sent weapons to the Palestinian Arabs, by way of our friends the Saudis. (Hat tip: LGF readers.)

      A British Foreign Office report from 1939 reports of “news of a consignment of arms from Germany, sent via Turkey and addressed to Ibn Saud (king of Saudi Arabia), but really intended for the Palestine insurgents.” Britain’s chief military officer in Mandatory Palestine also noted reports “regarding import of German arms at intervals for some years now.”

      British documents from the same period, and German records photographed by an American spy and sent to the British government, said that a number of Nazi agents were sent to Mandatory Palestine, in order to forge alliances with Palestinian leaders, and urge them to reject a partition of the land between the Jewish and Arab populations.

      One Nazi agent, Adam Vollhardt, arrived in Palestine in July 1938, and was reported to have gained strong influence with Arab leaders, meeting with Palestinian leaders throughout 1938. Vollhardt held several meetings with leading Arab politicians and told them “that the Palestine question would be settled to the satisfaction of the Arabs within a few weeks,” adding that “it would be fatal to their (Palestinians’) cause if at this juncture they showed any signs of weakness or exhaustion.”

      “Germany was interested in the settlement of the (Palestine) question on the basis of the Arabs obtaining their full demands,” Vollhardt was reported to say to Palestinian leaders, according to a report by the British War Office. Vollhardt also assured Arab leaders that “the Germans could continue to support the Palestinian Arab cause by means of propaganda.”

      German documents photographed and sent to Whitehall by an American spy revealed that in 1937, German officials had calculated that “Palestine under Arab rule would … become one of the few countries where we could count on a strong sympathy for the new Germany.”

      “The Palestinian Arabs show on all levels a great sympathy for the new Germany and its Fuhrer, a sympathy whose value is particularly high as it is based on a purely ideological foundation,” a Nazi official in Palestine wrote in a letter to Berlin in 1937. He added: “Most important for the sympathies which Arabs now feel towards Germany is their admiration for our Fuhrer, especially during the unrests, I often had an opportunity to see how far these sympathies extend. When faced with a dangerous behaviour of an Arab mass, when one said that one was German, this was already generally a free pass.”

  18. Because 1-800-MILYO says:

    Stanky, the official mascot of LGF

    • rightymouse says:

      Gee. Thanks! Great timing! I have to go make some biscuits for dinner soon. 😯

    • gizbot7 says:

      When my hubby went to look for a new puppy (my avatar), he called me from the breeder and said the one he wanted was hanging on the toilet drinking the water. We both knew then that was the one with spunk and had to have her. She’s a great girl with her own personality and is smart as heck, but unfortunately, still likes to eat poop. What ya gonna do? 😆

  19. Because 1-800-MILYO says:

    Meanwhile, this doggy is about to get the stick from LGF for not liking Chunky’s farts:

  20. trebob says:

    Because 1-800-MILYO :
    And he’s not even any good at ‘yormama’ jokes…

    Yeah, he’s terrible isn’t he? If the top end of troll stardom were Reggie or Windsaigo, ol’ Frank would certainly represent the bottom of the scale.

  21. poteen2 says:

    franksinclair :
    Christian Conservatives are an existential threat to American sanity…maybe even more. They should not be allowed to own firearms, and tbey should be aggressively profiled by police at all levels of government.

    Christian Conservatives ARE the police at all levels of government.
    Kinda slow, aren’t you boy?

  22. dwells38 says:

    franksinclair :Christian Conservatives are an existential threat to American sanity…maybe even more. They should not be allowed to own firearms, and tbey should be aggressively profiled by police at all levels of government.

    OMG. See this is the problem with Chunk’s website. It’s infested with pinheaded morons. So how could that be Stankflair? The country was founded by armed Christian conservatives.

    • dwells38 says:

      You leftoids only showed up after it was safe and settled enough for you to start sympathizing with our enemies. Proggy commies like you and Chunk are mere pustules that irritate body politic from time to time. Sometimes you’re able to cause a flairing infection for awhile but eventually lancing and anti-biotics and healthy living send you into the background where you belong.

  23. dwells38 says:

    franksinclair :I think your wife cares.

    Jeez Stank, you’re the worst troll on the planet. Are you trying to set some kind of record as dumbest troll ever?

    • Because 1-800-MILYO says:

      Actually, he’s got some competition at Curry’s. ‘Fan’ is at least as lame, and goofier. When I see his comments, I get this picture of some guy with a big red-and-white polka dot bow time, coke bottle glasses, a derby three sizes too small on his head, and a daisy sticking out of his pocket.

      Oh, and a pair of too big saddle shoes.

  24. dwells38 says:

    franksinclair :Christian Conservatives are an existential threat to American sanity…maybe even more. They should not be allowed to own firearms, and tbey should be aggressively profiled by police at all levels of government.

    Hey Stank. Liberal morons like you and Chunk should take your own PC medicine. You do realize that you are part of a culture that stole land from the Native Americans. You should flagellate yourself for that. You blame Christians but then benefit from their crime. You’re over privileged and guilty and rich! And the Redskins football team are insulting those fine noble Native Americans you tell us. But wait! Those Native humans came here and stole this land from the innocent Neolithic animals that once ruled it. They committed genocide X100 wearing those poor victim’s pelts as protection against cold and ingesting their very being for sustenance. And usually VERY wastefully. For hundreds of generations! Did you know sometimes they would just stampede buffalos off a cliff!!!! Yes they did!! They couldn’t eat those buffalo. Millions were wasted for human idiot wasteful asshole’s needs. And you defend them! And say they’re noble and need to be protected. You are such a useless and destructive pustule on the ass of this planet. Why do you still breath air you don’t deserve? I sure hope you don’t insult the planet by driving a gas powered car. Or get on planes because it “saves time”. Or heat and cool a house just for your destructive selfish ass’ comfort.

  25. Chuck Watcher says:

    87 Kragar
    Sun, Oct 20, 2013 5:58:14pm replyquote 1downupreport

    OK, this TV show I’m watching just listed an IP address with numbers in the 300s

    COME ON PEOPLE! At least get the basics right!

    You want them to post a REAL IP address? You stupid twat.

    What do you think the “555” in a phone number is?

    Not all numbers that begin with 555 are fictional—for example, 555-1212 is one of the standard numbers for directory assistance throughout the United States and Canada. In fact, only 555-0100 through 555-0199 are now specifically reserved for fictional use – except for the 800 area code where only 800-555-0199 is reserved – the other numbers have been released for actual assignment.


  26. Because so, are you gonna be on the crack Ocare website commando fixit team? says:

  27. Octopus says:

    No, that was your neighbor, complaining about the sorry state your yard’s in. He didn’t mind you being a slobby recluse, until the rats started coming. Now he’s about to take action.

    • OLT's Bring Your Bikini says:

      I know of a lesbian couple that’s into yardwork. Do you have a Big Green Egg, Stalker Charles? They *love* kale-smoked salmon with frog’s legs. They’re looking to move, anyway … apparently their current neighbor is some sort of midnight racist. I didn’t ask what they meant by that.

    • Juan Epstein says:

      Way to reference something that’s been common knowledge for months. Anything to keep up the foodie charade.

  28. Al-Cheezeera says:

    Ahhhh, creationism. The straw that broke the camel’s back and made me stop reading Chunky’s cut and paste website. For awhile he was posting like 5 stories a day, all about creationism and how it is a threat to the existence of the earth. So tired, so worn out, so repetitive. If Chunky knew he could make money on it, he’d create himself his own church and make himself the supreme leader.

  29. Minnow says:

    Barry is such a phoney-baloney.

    Hey Barry, your second chin is really oily looking tonight….. what is that? Pizza run-off?

  30. Anne Frank says:


  31. Octopus says:

    Just the juicy parts, Anne.

  32. Octopus says:

    The new WTC is pretty special, I must say. Love the safety features, too. You know the evildoers will be seeking its destruction, despite Chunky’s assurances to the contrary, so it’s nice to know the designers have paid special attention to its survivability factor.


  33. Octopus says:

    Provided free of charge for the edification of Chunky and Gus, the former being baffled by the mysterious presence of a frozen hunk of salmon, and the latter having non-regular access to a dishwasher in his sister’s home, the garage of which serves as his humble abode. Bon appetit, boys. 🙂