Revealed: The Declining LGF Registration Rate

In the past, The Boiler Room Crew has provided accurate “signs of the LGF decline” statistics, including commenting rates, unique nic participation, individual nic stats, and karma levels. These things are relatively easy to glean, since the data is sitting right there in plain view on the site.  All one has to do is figure out a way to efficiently grab it and stick it into a spreadsheet, then activate the various filters for analysis (for the most part).

Featured previously: 1st time commenters

Now, I know we’ve noted it before, but the engineers of The Boiler Room thought we’d do a little more work to see just how poorly Johnson’s doing in another department: recruitment of new accounts (dubbed “hatchlings”). After all, this is a great gauge of the general popularity and community aspect of the blog (the site that was, not so long ago, a strong contender for “best online community”). In light of Johnson’s political 180° turn a few years ago, has he been able to attract a new base of lizards? Just how many folks are joining LGF in recent months/years, and how does that number compare to the old days?

 

For our purposes, this project was much more of a challenge.  Unlike the commenting stats, the info we needed isn’t in plain sight.  Sure, we could use an alternative method (see graph, left) to get a general idea, but that wasn’t giving us the true number. We thought that the info we needed was buried somewhere on the dashboard of the LGF blog engine, and virtually inaccessible to us, whether you’re logged in or not. What we discovered though, is that Johnson’s blog coding actually left the clues right under our noses, like unknowingly sailing over a shipwreck every day. (Some of the pieces we already had, and didn’t realize it!) Once the proverbial light bulb appeared, we grabbed as many strawberries as we could (over 2,500, as it turned out), and began to plug the figures in.  Even if not unexpected, our findings are a bit shocking…and not in a good way for Mr. @Lizardoid.

Background

First though, I’d like to quickly revisit a time back when Johnson was a wingnut, and registration windows were short. When the announcement came and they were opened, doors to the kingdom generally got busted. In those days, Johnson would usually follow up and tell everyone how successful it was (the following is a typical example, from July ’07):

Other info about registration was volunteered in the comment section by CJ in more popular days, as summarized by this gif montage:

But eventually, we assumed that the rate began to slow considerably, and as that happened, he just stopped talking about it.  In fact, the last time CJ even mentioned the word “hatchling” was in November of 2010  (article #37494), when we saw this:

(A “sock”, for those who aren’t familiar, is an account which has characteristics of belonging to someone who has previously registered under another nickname. These days, a large percentage of new accounts are socks).

That last hatchling count indicates quite a drop off from those previous examples, but to some may seem still somewhat respectable. Going forward, however, we didn’t have Johnson’s report to work with, so we were kinda out of luck. He’d post up an open registration thread, but wouldn’t leave any clue as to how many were joining.

To give a full visual of Johnson’s announcements over the years, everything was plotted, and Engineer No. 5 presents and explains the timeline of those open registration windows and hatchling counts (or lack thereof):

Chart #1 – Plot (black lines) of the final registration counts for announced registration openings. These windows were typically 30-60 minutes long.  The short red lines just mark when CJ announced an open registration, but failed to publish the count afterward —  his method of hiding the decline.

Indeed, over the last handful of windows of the timeline, Johnson was actively “selling” the benefits of an LGF account, in an attempt to attract newbies. But how can we calculate a recent hatchling rate, if CJ’s too embarrassed to tell us how many actually signed up? Hence, the need for that hidden data.

Results of the 2nd Great Strawberry Heist

Well, luckily we have some smart and resourceful people here in The Boiler Room, and those aforementioned strawberries can tell us everything.  For the time being, we’re going to refrain from explaining exactly how we got all this information*. But rest assured, because we have it, we can provide the following charts and analysis with confidence. It was only a matter of putting it all together. For that, we turn back to Engineer No. 5:

Chart #2 – A December calendar showing the open LGF registration windows… Green = Open, Gray = Closed (or unknown – I had a couple of glitches).   For the 40 days shown, registration was open for a total of at least 282 hours (11 days, 18 hours).
As you can see, Johnson resorted to opening up the door virtually every day, announcement or not (presumably, while he was around to monitor the entrants). Engineer No. 5 continues:
I highlighted the 3 week period that we have registration information for.  For that period, registration was open for at least 108 hours (4.5 days) during which CJ got at most 7 legit (non-sock) registrations.
For these unannounced periods, we do actually have some basis for comparison in archives:

#449 Charles  4/3/2008  18:10:48

When I don’t announce open registration, it’s amazing how many fewer people notice it. It’s been open for almost 4 hours today, and less than 25 signups.
Engineer No. 5:

Let’s extrapolate that one. Back then, an unannounced open registration snagged about 6 regs/hour, or 1 every 10 minutes.

Flash forward to 2011.  A 3 week series of unannounced open registrations snagged 7 legit regs in 108 hours, or 1 every 926 minutes.

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Here’s where it gets really interesting.  The data we grabbed allows us to plot the registration activity at LGF over the years:

This is the new accounts/month timeline. Notice that there hasn’t been significant activity in quite some time.

This is the timeline for total registration counts. Notice the flattening line over the past few years.

Bottom line, if you take this data and average it out by year, this is what it looks like.

Analysis

Last we checked, there were 35,578 total user accounts registered since it was implemented in 2004 (we won’t mention how many are banned/blocked, as that is for another thread, and of course the number who are actively commenting these days is less than 1% of that). But check the “Grim Milestone” portion of the second graph: starting in mid-2007, the time to add the next 3,000 accounts keeps taking longer and longer, to the point where we really don’t know when (or if) they’ll get to the 36,000 mark.

Here’s a summary of the fun facts:

  • LGF had about 1250 registrations during 18 hours on the first day it was open (6/15/2004).
  • LGF has had about 1250 registrations during the 16 months from Sept 2010 and to the present.
  • The number of new LGF registrations has decreased by at least 30% every year since 2007.
  • The 4th year of decline, 2011, saw a whopping 67% fewer signups than 2010.
  • During the period 2007-2011, the LGF registration rate declined by 92%.
  • In 2007, open registrations typically netted 150-200 signups per hour.  (The “announced counts” chart confirms that.)
  • In 2011, perpetually** open registration netted about 50 signups per month.

Conclusion

It’s no wonder why Charles now keeps unannounced registration open so often, tries to boost signups with occasional announced “sales pitch”, and doesn’t mention how many hatchlings he gets anymore. The takers are scarce these days.

What’s more, the accounts that do sign up are socks, with increasing likelihood.  Take the aforementioned 3 week span in December that we tracked as an example. There were a grand total of 11 accounts created, and we know that at least 4 of them were socks (which means that the real number could be much higher).

What’s not forgotten is the fact that the site currently has more bells and whistles than it ever has in the past: LGF spy, LGF Pages, auto-twitter updates, avatars, etc., plus at least one video posted per day… yet the rate still spirals.

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*For tactical reasons and in the context of blog warfare, we reserve the right to reveal our methodology in detail strategically, at a time of our choosing.
**only slight exaggeration
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288 Comments on “Revealed: The Declining LGF Registration Rate”

  1. William Standish Knowels says:

    BRC. You are a god!

  2. So, the corpse is cooling as we speak. When do we get to bury this bitch?

  3. I appreciate the work you boiler room guys have done here but if you really want to hit the big time……you must go deeper.

  4. Claytonia Sibirica says:

    That’s because the blog was at its height when it was peddling crypto-fascist revenge fantasies.

      • Claytonia Sibirica says:

        I admit I just like the term ‘crypto-fascist’. Your proper response would have been, “Well listen here you queer. Stop calling me a crypto-nazi or I’ll sock you in the goddamn face, and you’ll stay plastered!”

        The rest I stand by.

        LGF was popular at its peak because he legitimized hating Islam.

      • Take comfort dear flower…now he’s legitimizing outright communism which killled about 120 million people last century alone.

        That should get your petals all hard and standing at attention.

        Also, Nazi stands for NATIONAL SOCIALIST not NATIONIST CONSERVATIVE.

        *BOOM!*

        What’s that sound?

        That’s me droppin’ some knowledge on you.

      • Claytonia Sibirica says:

        lol really? “Nazis were actually leftists”?

        Oldies aren’t always goodies.

      • John Difool says:

        Nazis were Nationilst Socialist not Nationalist conservatives.

        The difference between Nazis and liberals is……one likes to kill millions of people in camps…..the other in fields.

      • Zimriel says:

        Well at least in fields you get to see the countryside

      • John Difool says:

        In camps….you get to earn a badge.

      • Claytonia Sibirica says:

        This went dark places…

      • jd says:

        no it was popular because 04 rather and 08 Obama, people now realize they were wasting their time there. 12 obama will not be as big for him.

    • dwells38 says:

      Really. Go back to CJ’s blog and tell him he was peddling crypto-fascist revenge fantasy. See how long you have an account.

  5. Oh, and a late addition from Engineer #5:

    We know that there were no more than 17 legit registrations in 15 days: 1/21 – 2/4. And that period included an announced open registration during a notable political event. And no one showed up.

    It looks like during Dec-Jan the monthly average dropped below 30.

  6. lordnazh says:

    copyright the strawberries! (©)

  7. Lily says:

    Excellent work BRC…….bad move for cj to move to left when bho was elected.

  8. Claytonia Sibirica :
    I admit I just like the term ‘crypto-fascist’. Your proper response would have been, “Well listen here you queer. Stop calling me a crypto-nazi or I’ll sock you in the goddamn face, and you’ll stay plastered!”
    The rest I stand by.
    LGF was popular at its peak because he legitimized hating Islam.

    Yeah, I dug Buckley, too.

    • Claytonia Sibirica says:

      I’d do him

    • Oh, and regardless of your theories on why the decline (and I would suggest that your analysis is a bit too simplistic), the fact remains: LGF is slowly but inexorably dying in terms of its influence and popularity. Personally, I don’t care exactly why. All I know is the sweet, sweet schadenfreude is quite intoxicating.

      • Claytonia Sibirica says:

        Well there isn’t really any question, is there?

        My explanation for the loss of influence is pretty much the same as the mainstream here, just with different framing.

      • Diogenes says:

        In terms of influence, LGF ain’t dyin’. It’s stone cold dead and buried.

      • Zimriel says:

        It’s just pinin’ for the fjords!

      • jd says:

        Well in those terms the decline is because Charles values his posting community not at all. He’ll crap on the blog and the revolted leave the perverts who love it stay.

  9. William Standish Knowels says:

    Looking at the data…it’s like an inverse RC Time Constant. The lgf is flat and the swamp “don’t know it”.

    • 4_Sticks says:

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  10. Hide the decline says:

    Speaking of blogs in a death spiral, check out the recent posts at The Blogmocracy….
    Nobody comments there anymore…lol

    I have a screen shot of this post, so deleting it just makes you silly troll look even sillier

    Headlines

    Top U.S. soap: Newt’s Landing
    by Speranza – Feb 5, 2012 – 4:47 pm
    Comments (3) – 3 hours ago
    Sunday At The Movies! “Smiley’s People,” Chapter 1: The Two Incidents
    by Flyovercountry – Feb 5, 2012 – 7:09 am
    Comments (0)
    Mayor Bloomberg pushes for Gun Control
    by Rodan – Feb 4, 2012 – 8:01 pm
    Comments (2) – 22 hours ago
    A Few Words From Uncle Ted: The Great Keystone XL Pipeline Massacre
    by huckfunn – Feb 4, 2012 – 12:13 pm
    Comments (2) – 18 hours ago
    BOOOMMMMM!!!!! Goes the Obama-BOOOOMMMM!!!!
    by coldwarrior – Feb 3, 2012 – 11:01 am
    Comments (4) – 2 days 2 hours ago
    Global Warming Hits the UK
    by coldwarrior – Feb 3, 2012 – 10:08 am
    Comments (3) – 1 day 11 hours ago
    Tony Dorsett Suing NFL: Hall Of Famer Joins 300 Former Players In Concussions Lawsuit
    by Speranza – Feb 2, 2012 – 1:09 pm
    Comments (2) – 3 days ago
    Angelo Dundee Has Died. RIP.
    by coldwarrior – Feb 2, 2012 – 9:45 am
    Comments (2) – 3 days ago
    Punxsutawney Phil predicts six more weeks of winter….BOOOOOO!
    by coldwarrior – Feb 2, 2012 – 9:06 am
    Comments (17) – 3 days ago
    Trump to Endorse Gingrich
    by Iron Fist – Feb 2, 2012 – 7:55 am
    Comments (3) – 3 days ago

    Special Reports

    Take Back the GoP! Moneyball! (A ‘Must Read’)
    by coldwarrior – Feb 4, 2012 – 12:29 pm
    Comments (3) – 12 hours ago
    Jihadis Down Under
    by coldwarrior – Feb 3, 2012 – 9:33 am
    Comments (5) – 1 day 2 hours ago
    Trump Endorses Romney
    by coldwarrior – Feb 2, 2012 – 3:21 pm
    Comments (19) – 2 days 22 hours ago
    Mitt Romney calls for automatic Minimum wage increases
    by Rodan – Feb 1, 2012 – 11:21 pm
    Comments (11) – 3 days ago
    Syrian Forces take back Damascus Suburbs.
    by Rodan – Jan 30, 2012 – 10:44 am
    Comments (2) – 6 days ago
    Free Syrian Army making gains
    by Rodan – Jan 28, 2012 – 3:22 pm
    Comments (21) – 1 week 0 days ago
    The News We Have All Been Waiting For…BOOOM!!!
    by coldwarrior – Jan 27, 2012 – 9:55 am
    Comments (1) – 1 week 2 days ago
    Two More “Green” Energy Companies File for Bankruptcy
    by huckfunn – Jan 26, 2012 – 12:23 pm
    Comments (10) – 1 week 1 day ago
    Strongest Solar Blast since 2005 Headed to Earth
    by coldwarrior – Jan 23, 2012 – 3:40 pm
    Comments (2) – 1 week 5 days ago
    Picture of Obama and his Ex
    by Rodan – Jan 22, 2012 – 12:43 am
    Comments (20) – 12 hours ago

    • Claytonia Sibirica says:

      Too long, cut it down or something.

    • That’s pretty damn unfair looking only at the headlines and special reports comment numbers and ignoring the main posts on Blogmoc – dishonest…

      • Claytonia Sibirica says:

        I hate to defend that guy and his goddamn spam, but that’s kind of the name of the game.

        You find something that makes the other side look like its failing, and then run with it.

        Bonus points for fat jokes

      • Puncture some other asshole here tonight CS, I’m not engaging you any further.

      • Bagua says:

        Those blogmoc numbers compare favourably with LGF Pages, which is what they are, not the main posts.

        Not to mention 2.0 is only one of numerous LGF spin-off sites. Taken in total they vastly out numbers LGF in Real visits and comments.

        LGF “statistics” have always been fraudulent.

      • Claytonia Sibirica says:

        pfeh, coward

    • OMG Dork. You could have at least copied the front page.

    • ISTE says:

      These are the top Featured Pages

      Unsurprisingly, Pamela Geller…
      4 hours, 32 minutes ago Comments: 8

      Obama: Israel Has Not Decided…
      3 hours ago Comments: 0

      The Komen Fiasco: How to Drive…
      2 hours, 8 minutes ago Comments: 0

      Disruptions: Facebook Users Ask…
      9 hours, 15 minutes ago Comments: 2

      Egypt ‘To Put on Trial Foreign…
      8 hours, 33 minutes ago Comments: 1

      NBC Sets Precedent by Streaming…
      10 hours, 19 minutes ago Comments: 0

      23 and 1/2 Hours: What Is the…
      8 hours, 45 minutes ago Comments: 1

      e.t.c

      Lots of zeros there I see.

    • Really, the side bar is your big proof. Duh! Yes I did post an entire movie, and was not really aiming for comments. What an ass you are!

    • Bunk X says:

      Last time I looked at the banner here, it didn’t say “Blogmocracy” anywhere.

    • Pakimon says:

      The reason the numbers are down at The Blogmocracy is because everyone’s over here at the stalker blog. 😆

    • dwells38 says:

      Why would you criticize Blogmoc? They’re just a bunch of people doing what CJ told them to do. Namely “Get off my website and if you don’t like what I post start your own blog”. And they do it in their spare time without being assholes to the commenters.

  11. garycooper says:

    Hunh, Buffalo Buhl. 😐

  12. garycooper says:

    Brady can’t help it if his receivers are gonna succumb to the dropsies, like they were playing for Detroit. He put the ball in there, on that last drive.

    Speaking of my UMICH brothers, though, how about that catch by Manningham? That was the killer. Go Blue!! 😈

    • ISpeakJive says:

      Was not looking forward to the SB party I had to go to. Had a better time than I thought I would. I thought it was funny when the guy sat down over the goal line. However, I thought for the first half the quarterback was Bradley Manning.

      Good thing nobody there reads blogs.

  13. Claytonia Sibirica :
    Well there isn’t really any question, is there?
    My explanation for the loss of influence is pretty much the same as the mainstream here, just with different framing.

    Ok.

  14. Claytonia Sibirica says:

    holyromanstuff :
    Grave plot 4435, fifteen rows from the back, 2 from the right. Bring a shovel and, well, whatever else.

    One of the advantages of fucking the long dead, you don’t have to worry about safe sex.

  15. sod says:

    Hide the decline! Grim Milestones! I love it! Great post.

  16. My four socks do not match so I can never put them on at the same time.

    Besides one in Texas, one out of New Mexico, one from Calif. and the other one need not be known.

  17. I defend the U.S. , if that needs to include Islamic ones of terror that is enough for me.

    Now on hate, they seem busy enough with hate themselves, why distract them, makes the defence of the U.S. easier when they have their crazy hate blinding them.

  18. Claytonia Sibirica says:

    John Difool :
    Nazis were Nationilst Socialist not Nationalist conservatives.
    The difference between Nazis and liberals is……one likes to kill millions of people in camps…..the other in fields.

    You realize I’m laughing at you right now right?

    I’d take this ‘substantive discussion’ over to Blogomaracy, but it looks like there’d be no replies.

    • John Difool says:

      Why are you laughing? Nazis are leftists too just like Communists are. Nationalist socialists killed around 20 million people last century, the communists around 120 million. No wonder the left worships the latter.

      If you find this funny you have a sick and morbid sense of humor.

  19. Bagua says:

    LGF when it had a voice, was difficult to join. So the massive monthly declines would look vastly worse if that were factored in.

    What did the NYTimes say about “sitting in the ashes of a flame war”? Things were far better when that was written.

    Without DoD and the BRC, which only mock and laugh, would anyone notice LGF still was online?

  20. JimboXL says:

    “It’s halftime at LGF.”

    *This message brought to you by Chrysler*

  21. sod says:

    What a wet napkin that ProLifeLiberal is. The great Obdi Wan has had enough of him.

  22. hmmm…here’s something to put on the #LGF page.

    Retweet!

  23. ISpeakJive says:

    A year from now Chuck will have the blog whittled down to exactly 6 people on the planet who agree with him on every single subject.

  24. garycooper says:

    Here’s the hermaphrodite’s killing blow: “You stupid idiots know I’m laughing at you, right? I’m making giggly-giggly noises, in my one-room apartment.”

    Yuh, everyone here is devastated. Clay. Keep pourin’ it to ’em! They deserve it. I deserve it. Give me some of your wicked snark, baby. Don’t make me beg…like Chunky does, for subscriptions and sales of his pongy wares…

    • Claytonia Sibirica says:

      well seriously, how am I supposed to react?

      That guy is being so staggeringly stupid it’s hard to react without getting infected

  25. Claytonia Sibirica says:

    sod :
    What the fuck are you talking about?

    I’m making fun of Obdicut’s intensely obnoxious ‘debating’ technique.

    Step1: Ask wide open, vaguely accusatory question.
    Step2: Claim to not understand answer, ask for clarification.
    Step3: Claim your victim is ‘dodging’
    Step4: Repeat steps 2 and 3 500 times, or until answer has become entirely meaningless, whichever comes last.

    • sod says:

      Ah, then I withdraw my belligerent response. Liberals are really just conservatives with a lot more patience. Eventually they drop the compassionate act when it becomes clear that it’s a lost cause – ProLifeLiberal is a lost cause if ever there was one.

      Conservatives just have a knack for spotting them sooner rather than later.

      • Claytonia Sibirica says:

        I like PLL really, and in a way you guys should too, he came onto that blog when it was still very hostile and fought it out.

      • ISpeakJive says:

        Yeah, Islam is all rainbows and puppies. Nothing wrong with that.

        ‘Cept it isn’t doing this kid any favors.

        He likes a girl, doesn’t know what to do and he’s got CL advising him to consult his local Imam and, sure he can go out in the day with her, just don’t be caught in a room together at the same time, because she’s a different sex. That’s not allowed.

        It’s not 1812, it’s 2012 and this kid is supposed to consider marrying a girl he has never spent any time with alone together in the same room.

        Hello! Are you fiucking kidding me???????

      • sod says:

        Well, he does have motor control issues, he can’t even be alone in a room with himself without doing major damage.

        alone in a room with himself
        alone in a room with himself
        alone in a room with himself

    • sod says:

      Gus wants you to email him.

  26. WalkedAway says:

    dolphin catcher (@dolphincatcher) :
    Puncture some other asshole here tonight CS, I’m not engaging you any further.

    Why give him such power? If he merely perforates?

  27. MrPaulRevere says:

    Claytonia Sibirica :
    That’s because the blog was at its height when it was peddling crypto-fascist revenge fantasies.

    You make it sound as if that was something that just ‘happened’ like a pop-up rainstorm or a dandelion sprouting up in the yard. Which is of course a total fantasy. He has the blog he wants now, just as he had the blog he wanted then. Tool is as tool does.

    • Claytonia Sibirica says:

      huh?

      I’ve made it clear why I think it happened and why its changed.

      He’s embarrassed he used to be like Rodan.

      • ISTE says:

        Ouch… That one is going to leave a mark! 😆

      • Bunk X says:

        He’s embarrassed he used to be like Rodan, but now he’s become Irish Rose.

      • dwells38 says:

        So isn’t that like going to David Duke’s blog or something? A former proud but now reformed KKKer. Why would you want to follow someone like that anyway? With all the good content on the web why not just go to someone’s blog who always and has always known what they think?

  28. ZappaWouldBeVomiting says:

    Lol that our own Sigretti goes. Crypto Fascist.

    You need new material.

    FWIW, part of the decline was Facebook/Twitter. I have to try to be fair a bit.

    I think that Charles misread the whole social media thing when he tried to “go Digg” and then thought that he’d be better appealing to the left after the Obama election. The stats maxed in 2007, 18 months or so before the Obama turn but while still adding Digg-like features.

    Then there was the split with PJ Media which I suspect was not ideological but also traffic / “we need a new model” based.

    If you check the posts on what Obamatons were posting on barakobama.com in 2008 Chuck was still fighting for the “Crypto Nazi” side (Vidal / Godwin mashup).

    The entire turn, as this post makes obvious, was market repositioning. Not the first time a guy did that. And Tucker Carlson thanks him for it.

    • Claytonia Sibirica says:

      “Crypto-nazi” is nice because it’s a pre-godwin dis.

      You can totally get away with it then.

      • ZappaWouldBeVomiting says:

        It is about as thoughtful.

        Sits in a dusty trophy case of past rhetorical triumphs from an almost-entirely-dead class of bygone intellectuals. Pining for those days is every bit as threadworn as pining for the old LGF.

        Although we are still in the same century as the old LGF

      • Claytonia Sibirica says:

        It’s partially a style thing, it’s both a really good turn of phrase, and it was the equivalent of punching Buckley directly in the pancreas.

        That style absolutely perfect for a place like DoD, where all that matters is ‘getting’ the other guy.

      • Claytonia Sibirica says:

        It’s honestly my belief that there’s no room for ‘thoughtful’ on DoD. That’s not the point.

        If you want thought full go (not actually) post on Blogmocracy.

      • ZappaWouldBeVomiting says:

        So it is both excusably thoughtful and not.

        Now we are in Schrodinger territory.

        How about this – isn’t it a thrill taking the risk of firing a bottle rocket out of your ass? Wasn’t the gist on the prior thread?

        Well if you are into risk thrills, why don’t you risk your account at LGF and say something dickish about Chucky? Or are you a missionary here to prostelytize the natives? Not much risk there.

    • dwells38 says:

      It’s weak tea for anyone. He should just rename the blog “What CJ thinks about things”. Because I don’t think even the lefties find it very interesting. Especially when you have to deal with the intrusive and abrasive blog master all the time.

  29. Zeus Crankypants says:

    Claytonia Sibirica :

    holyromanstuff :
    Grave plot 4435, fifteen rows from the back, 2 from the right. Bring a shovel and, well, whatever else.

    One of the advantages of fucking the long dead, you don’t have to worry about safe sex.

    And if you actually post at LGF as you have claimed, that’s exactly what you are doing… fucking the dead. Enjoy.

    • Claytonia Sibirica says:

      I know rite? It was never the same after you quit blessing them with your *stunning* acting skills.

  30. Emperor says:

    ZappaWouldBeVomiting :
    Then there was the split with PJ Media which I suspect was not ideological but also traffic / “we need a new model” based.

    I personally suspect it was neither, and was instead based upon personal issues. A cursory look at Mr. Johnson’s varied careers shows two facts: firstly, Charles ran from field to field, as if he alienated all of his connections in those areas, and also, closer to the point, that all of his professional partnerships ended quickly.

    If it was ideological, Chuck would have shouted his indignation from the rooftops, since “Founder of Conservative Online Media Site Quits, Citing Possible Ties to Flemish Neo-Nazis” might get him a couple MSM articles or two. If he wanted more traffic or a new model the logical solution (OK, yeah, yeah, CJ’s not logical) would be to develop closer ties to PJ Media.

    The most likely reason is this: Roger Simon and the other people behind PJ Media assumed that Charles, then running a popular blog and a self-proclaimed software developer, would be an excellent asset. Then it became apparent he had nothing to offer and was disruptive to the running of the operation, and it was best for both sides to end Charles’ involvement quietly.

    • ZappaWouldBeVomiting says:

      I thought he cofounded PJM and had equity.

      When they were getting setup he asked a comment thread for any recs on a content mgt system, and I know he did a meet and greet in the valley with Roger because I was there but decided to not introduce myself (I liked his site but never saw the idea as taking off).

      Not sure what happened on PJM other that his exit seemed to coincide with the PJTV thing – my assumption was Roger went to what he knew (video) and figured out a way to screw Chuck. My guess but I have never been presented a set of facts to contradict that last part. Anyway, ads showed up on the site shortly thereafter.

      • Bunk X says:

        The grapevine says that CJ wanted to direct PJM, but others disagreed with him, so CJ walked. No evidence of animosity, just a difference of opinion that Charles couldn’t take.

      • ThreeHundred says:

        So what you are saying, Bunk, is that he could not be PJMFuerher like he was used to being BlogFuerher, so he left in a Huff.

      • dwells38 says:

        Gosh what a surprise. CJ burning a bridge? Well I never….

  31. Emperor says:

    P.S. Another excellent job by the Boiler Room Crew. I think this was a direct hit…..

  32. Emperor says:

    Looks like my posts got eaten for some reason..

  33. Claytonia Sibirica says:

    ZappaWouldBeVomiting :
    So it is both excusably thoughtful and not.
    Now we are in Schrodinger territory.
    How about this – isn’t it a thrill taking the risk of firing a bottle rocket out of your ass? Wasn’t the gist on the prior thread?
    Well if you are into risk thrills, why don’t you risk your account at LGF and say something dickish about Chucky? Or are you a missionary here to prostelytize the natives? Not much risk there.

    The bottlerocket thing is what we call in the biz a ‘throwaway joke’. Just a little piece of intentionally retarded absurdism. It ruins the joke tho if you have to explain it.

    About the other thing, what possibly would be in it for me? You guys respect? (lol) I already said up above that I consider getting banned a mark of failure.

    Anyways I still have goals I need to accomplish over there. Mandy was a good kill, but my mission will not be complete until I get Alouette and Marjoriemoon banned.

    • Claytonia Sibirica says:

      Oh and I’d take partial credit for Bagua, but it wasn’t clean, so I don’t normally list him.

      • Bagua says:

        Lol, windsagio, you were never more than a little dog nipping at ankles. You are just the same here.

        That you are the vile iceweasel’s sycophant is nothing to be proud of. Freaks of a feather flock together. But you are weak as water in comparison.

        That these passive-aggresive little games are your main fascination and attraction to commenting is quite pathetic for a young man.

        Being an annoying troll is hardly something to be proud of. It is amusing that you fancy yourself effective and interesting however. But you are just as ugly as a little flower as you are wearing a dress.

      • Windsagia Chunkbirica says:

        I love risk! And attention! See the risky flower pattern on my dress as I display my mad dancing skilz?

        Nobody takes me seriously over at LGF. 😥

      • Claytonia Sibirica says:

        bags; that rage is what I’m talking about. you were hating people so bad that you lost your balance and fell off.

        I don’t count it as a clean kill because you were more mad at windie than anyone else.

      • dwells38 says:

        Wow. Says something about the other blog that you’re posting so prolifically here. Guess there’s not much discussion of interest over there. Ha!

      • snowcrash says:

        Alouette and marjoriemoon? What’s that about? Did they pile on a friend of yours? Like Locker or something? Ninja please. Those two will be there long after you are gone.

    • ZappaWouldBeVomiting says:

      Some would call it an act of negation. Given how speech and behavior is so tightly monitored there self deportation is only a failure if you value such a mindset.

      Interesting that your targets are women.

    • ThreeHundred says:

      “Anyways I still have goals I need to accomplish over there.”

      “Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go thru life son”. – Yes, you need to get that across.

  34. ZappaWouldBeVomiting says:

    BTW – Kudos to ChenZhen et al on the stealthy data collection. Not a trivial effort. I have my own ideas on how you pulled it off but I will wait to learn them from you guys rather than speculate. Sources and methods and whatnot.

  35. ZappaWouldBeVomiting says:

    The death of blog influence on the media closed a brief period in modern communications where opinion formation was out of the hands of the beltway.

    Now it is reconsolidated with twitter and fb and the “personality journalist”

    You would think that “liberals” would mourn that but the powers that be throw out morsels to keep them contented and bought in.

    • Bunk X says:

      As far as the MSM goes, they disparaged the blogosphere and portrayed it as a bunch of echo chambers. Even Rush did the same, but the echo chambers cross link. FB and Twitter serve the purpose of advertising those blog stories that the MSM is no longer able to spike, and the power of Twitter is nothing without blogs.

      Charles has lost influence not because of a reduction in the relevance of the blogosphere, but because of a lack of substance on LGF.

      Also, he’s a dick.

      • MrPaulRevere says:

        Its all very simple at the end of the day. He’s putting out a product no one wants to buy.

      • Bunk X says:

        Lotta people got tired of Johnson’s Garden Party.

      • ThreeHundred says:

        Teh Johnson is just biding his time, waiting to see how well the Facebook IPO does, then he will pounce, and PROFIT!!

        //

      • ZappaWouldBeVomiting says:

        I am not a big supporter of the theory that Chuck had some divine transformation catalyzed by the lightworker. I think he doesn’t hold any opinion dear except his high self opinion.

        The timeline seems to support his trying to adapt and then wrongly assuming the REAL problem was his customer base.

        For a while he was a bright spot in alt media but now blogs just don’t get that attention. The MSM has adapted and pretty much muzzles blog originated stories – journos simply pick up story fragments off of twitter and then start working from there. Consequently they shape the narrative. I am all for blogs and alt media but all you have to do is follow about 200 key journos on twitter and you see the news being manufactured in real time, along with the language that determines how facts are interpreted.

  36. MrPaulRevere says:

    Claytonia Sibirica :
    huh?
    I’ve made it clear why I think it happened and why its changed.
    He’s embarrassed he used to be like Rodan.

    So let me get this straight genius; Charles changed his entire worldview, domestic and foreign because he didn’t want to sound like Rodan. Gee, that paints a picture of CJ as a shallow fool with his finger in the wind. Thanks for the insight.

    • Bunk X says:

      Chuck’s long-time mantra was “Piss off. Go start you own website.” So Rodan and Savage did exactly that, and Charlie don’t like. Just ain’t pleasin’ some folks.

    • Claytonia Sibirica says:

      man how’d you get that? It doesn’t even matter what people say to you, does it? You’ll just make it fit what you already know to be true.

      I of course didn’t mean that johnson changed BECAUSE of Rodan, but rather that he changed, woke up if you will, looked at the person who was still being an insane idiot and then denied he’d ever been like that.

      My complaint is always the same; I understand being embarrassed, but man up. You said what you said, denying it only makes you look like a tool.

      • dwells38 says:

        CJ’s always accusing others of passive-aggressive. But you’re saying he himself was so passive-aggressive as to let his worldview be completely manipulated by someone else?

        Doesn’t pass the BS smell test coming from him or you.

      • Claytonia Sibirica says:

        dwells38 :
        CJ’s always accusing others of passive-aggressive. But you’re saying he himself was so passive-aggressive as to let his worldview be completely manipulated by someone else?
        Doesn’t pass the BS smell test coming from him or you.

        ummm… I don’t think you’re understanding.

        Let me generalize my point to make it more clear (and sorry to be repeating, some people…)

        “Charles, like many americans, went mad with rage after 9/11. Before that he was by default an aging hippie type, but not the radical kind, the boring kind. His hate-mongering over the attacks happened at just the right time and hit people just right, and that’s what led to the massive popularity of his blog.

        He was solidly center on most issues, but heavily hawkish on the war on terrorism, Iraq, and Israel. It let people rationalize their own feelings.

        As time passed, his rage cooled, and he saw how extreme some of his posts, and the posts on his blog had gotten.

        He was appalled and embarrassed by what he saw, tried to purge what was left of that element out of his blog, and now spends a lot of time pretending he never said those things.”

        Rodan was just a convenient example really, it was an easy (and funny!) shot. The actual reasons I was trying to lay out have nothing to do with him.

      • Lily says:

        Good heavens your thinking style is way off….he was berating bho during the election year full throttle…..he cooled his heals the day obama was elected…..it was a poor business move.
        Are you in cj’s head???? I think you are projecting how you feel about how lgf was and is now.
        So disgusting little flower the only reason you still hang around lgf is to get a couple female posters banned????? That sure says alot about you.

      • dwells38 says:

        Hey Clay. BS is still BS. More words doesn’t change that.

  37. Bunk X says:

    36 downdings for linking to a NYT article. What’s wrong with this picture?

    2 rwmofo Sun, Feb 5, 2012 10:20:55am
    -36
    down
    up
    report
    Here’s an excellent article from the NY Times on left-wing media bias. That’s right. The NY Times. I think I just saw a flock of pigs do a fly-by.

    Here’s the article rwmofo linked to:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/05/opinion/sunday/douthat-the-medias-blinders-on-abortion.html?_r=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

    • Flouncy McDownding says:

      Bunk X :
      36 downdings for linking to a NYT article. What’s wrong with this picture?

      2 rwmofo Sun, Feb 5, 2012 10:20:55am
      -36
      down
      up
      report
      Here’s an excellent article from the NY Times on left-wing media bias. That’s right. The NY Times. I think I just saw a flock of pigs do a fly-by.

      Here’s the article rwmofo linked to:
      http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/05/opinion/sunday/douthat-the-medias-blinders-on-abortion.html?_r=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

      Someone there replied that “every newspaper has its resident wingnut” (referring to the author of the linked NYT article), making a point that is indicative of the typical Lizard mentality … not realizing of course that that mentality exactly proves rwmofo’s point. (I.e., no one would opine that “every newspaper has its resident lefty,” right?)

  38. song_and_dance_man says:

    Foster was like Balaam and LGF was once his donkey.

  39. beed says:

    Claytonia Sibirica :
    Oh and I’d take partial credit for Bagua, but it wasn’t clean, so I don’t normally list him.

    I take partial credit for
    – The Miracle on Ice
    – The last three Star Wars movies that were made before the three that came first
    – Penicillin
    – The paper clip

  40. beed says:

    A big congratulation to Tebow and the Super Bowls. I’m officially a fan now.

  41. Mike C. says:

    OKay, this one was actually interesting, even if the evidence showed the expected. The actual story, I mean – din’t read the comments.

    One thing I might suggest is that Chart # 4 should be annotated with key events; start of required registration, Rathergate, Fauxtogate, start of registration being closed except for “windows”, etc. This would help add context to the ebb and flow.

  42. beed says:

    Bagua :
    Being an annoying troll is hardly something to be proud of.

    I beg to disagree.

    • Pakimon says:

      No need to beg.

      Stand up for yourself!

      Assertively demand that you disagree!

      • beed says:

        Ok. I demand disagreement!

      • OldLineTexan says:

        I believe that makes you a crypto-fascist, which is apparently someone who dreams of buggering Wm. F. Buckley’s corpse.

        And here I thought you were just Swedish, which is bad enough. Frankly,I think you should leave Bill’s corpse alone – I admit he was almost unbearably snotty, but that’s no reason to take advantage of an Embalmed American minority clothed only in a suit split all the way from top to bottom. Plus, the formaldehyde is bad for your health AND if they put any Worcestershire sauce in him he could well be a brain-eating zombie. If you dig him up for some innocent prison-style furrie sex, he’ll go rampaging for fresh brains to munch, rather than bending over an adjacent tombstone and calling you “Mrs. McGee”. You don’t want THAT on your conscience, trust me.

  43. African Moondog says:

    Has anybody checked LGF’s performance on Alexa recently? CfnJ no longer makes it to the 100K top sites. To think that he used to be up there with the Puff Hos of the world and Kos was someone to sneer and laugh at. Now LGF’s offsping, Atlas Shrugs and Weasel Zippers and so much bigger they ignore him completely. Oh the pathos!

    • PeteP says:

      Fatso pulled the plug on his Alexa stats ages ago in order to hide the decline. And last time I checked on Wikio, LGF wasn’t even in the top 100 political blogs. It’s been a spectacular fall but he’ll probably keep LGF going simply because he has nothing to fall back on. Which is good for us because it helps keep us entertained.

    • Bunk X says:

      Doesn’t much matter, as everyone can guess what the LGF Alexa stats look like. Meanwhile, DoD is back up to No.3 on the google search results for PENIS PENIS PENIS LOL.

  44. OldLineTexan says:

    Claytonia Sibirica :
    This went dark places…

    And YOU led the way.

    So what was your complaint again?

    • Claytonia Sibirica says:

      that you unfortunately can’t tell the difference between the left and nazis.

      Apocalyptically bad discernment.

      • Speranza says:

        The Left’s hero Joseph Stalin was as blood brother to Adolf Hitler.

      • dwells38 says:

        I think the point is a left-wing approach can lead to some very oppressive and unjust regimes. If you look around the world you can see it’s either left-wing socialism/communism or Islamism that leads to the most oppressive and unfree societies. Individual rights are trampled for the good of the people or to comply with Allah’s will. I’m sure you’ll blow some smoke out your butt to attempt to refute this obvious fact.

      • John Difool says:

        How do we tell the difference between the left and. Nazis when one need to only look at any left-wing protest anywhere and one will find a substantive element calling for death to Jews and Israel? OWS for example is rife with antisemitism.

        Sorry, but you just don’t find that on the right, especially the Tea Parties for example.

  45. Zeus Crankypants says:

    Claytonia Sibirica :

    I know rite? It was never the same after you quit blessing them with your *stunning* acting skills.

    You never had the pleasure of seeing me in a show. I’d be interested in your acting skills. Will you tell me the next time you’re prancing around on stage with your “bears” in your fishnets and boa?

    • Claytonia Sibirica says:

      more a reference to your tendency back in the day to claim you were just ‘acting’ when getting called out on what the rest of us call ‘lies’.

      I’m surprised people trusted anything you said after the first time you pulled that.

  46. ZappaWouldBeVomiting says:

    I just realized that these stats and the conclusions drawn from them are all bogus because this does not comport with Blog Science and no serious and respected Blog Scientists helped write it.

    So which oil company paid for this?

  47. Zeus Crankypants says:

    Claytonia Sibirica :

    I know rite? It was never the same after you quit blessing them with your *stunning* acting skills.

    And just for posterity sake… and because I like talking about myself (and I have no fear about revealing my private self, much unlike your little trolling game)… I want to set the record straight with you. I have not spent my whole part time live theatre career in plays. I’ve been involved in live entertainment on a regional basis since 1966. I’ve acted in about 45 shows since 1966. I’ve also done my fair share of being on the other side of the stage managing the technical aspects of mounting and performing a live play.

    I also shared 12 years of that time (1970-1982) playing keyboards for live bands, mainly playing bars, lounges and private functions, both with a band I had for 4 years and then with other peoples bands. One of those band even had their “15 minutes of fame” (actually 6 months) where we gain some international interest and had numerous article about the band in newspapers world wide and a half page article in US magazine.

    I had a magic production company for 5 years, framing and developing magic shows for outdoor “main stage” venues, such as state fairs and medium sized amusement parks. Some show were produced for indoor venues, venues similar to the Mall Of America and other such indoor multi-functioned entertainment complexes.

    I did my fair share of magic shows myself, once again working bars (as a magic bartender), lounges, restaurants (what’s know as “table hopping”) and private functions. And I invented a fair share of original magic tricks and a number of small booklets that were sold on the trade market. One of my effects even ended up in David Copperfield’s hands which he performed on the Tonight Show (actually, I grew up with David, but that’s another story).

    And of course, there’s been the off and on playwriting. Four of my plays have seen world premiers here in the Denver area, two of them receiving very positive reviews in Variety Magazine out of Los Angeles. I have a number of other works in draft form that has won awards and public readings from the Colorado Theatre Guild. A few of my short scenes and one acts have seen reading around the country in theatre festivals and competitions. I really haven’t dedicated too much time in the last 3 years to writing new material or shopping my existing non-produced scripts.

    I’ve spent a little of my writing skills on commissioned material, mainly developing short scripts and sketches for conferences, conventions and murder mysteries “who done it” type diners and gatherings.

    I don’t know how you can comment on my skills as a entertainer, technician or a writer since you have never had the pleasure of being exposed to anything I have accomplished.

    Oh… wait… I just figure it out. you just a stupid troll sucking eggs… on DoD and LGF.

    • Walter is a leech says:

      Walter, please explain why you haven’t had a real job in years and have to leech off the woman you live with.

      • beed says:

        It’s ok to be an asshole. It’s not ok to be unfunny.

      • Claytonia Sibirica says:

        he must be really good in bed, I can grant him that.

        Either that or he has her kids tied to the bandsaw downstairs.

        let’s call it 50/50

    • TreBob says:

      Walter, you don;t have to feed this (or the the other) troll(s). He’s nothing.

      It’s amazing the amount of butt-hurt you have caused over there. Not one of those dorks stood up for you when you were being abused and now that you are having a bit of fun, it seems to be driving them crazier.

    • Claytonia Sibirica says:

      nothing like a wounded ego.

      You wouldn’t last 5 minutes in the ‘real’ internet.

  48. dwells38 says:

    Excellent analysis as usual Chen. And not surprising. It’s what happens when your blog goes from classically liberal (novel and interesting) to Pelosi dingbat liberal (boring and tiresome). And then act like a jerk to a whole bunch of good people on top of that.

  49. Speranza says:

    Remember when Sharmuta used to be the “greeter” to new hatchlings “To break the ice why don’t you start by telling us what brought you to LGF”?

  50. Speranza says:

    Bagua :
    Those blogmoc numbers compare favourably with LGF Pages, which is what they are, not the main posts.
    Not to mention 2.0 is only one of numerous LGF spin-off sites. Taken in total they vastly out numbers LGF in Real visits and comments.
    LGF “statistics” have always been fraudulent.

    Good point – The LGF Diaspora is huge.

  51. garycooper says:

    That’s a very clear picture you’ve painted, Chen. It’s one thing to see the shambles the old blog is in now, compared to the thriving metropolis it once was, but it really brings the extent of Chunky’s miserable failure out in the open to see all the numbers laid out. Wow, did he implode!

    Btw, nowadays I treat Blogmocracy a lot like I used to do LGF back in the day, as in, I skim the articles daily and read a lot of them. It’s a fine blog, with lots of good people, some of whom are regulars here of course. I would get more involved in the conversation, but I’m too wrapped up in my duties at Stormfront and Salon. Wish I could clone myself!

    • rightymouse says:

      It’s rough being a Gnatsy these days. Especially with ignoramuses claiming we’re just like the commies. So untrue! We killed undesirables & our own in war & in camps, The commies kill everyone- anytime, anywhere.

      • rightymouse says:

        And everyone hates Gnatsies but the left loves commies. Go figure. What’s a Gnatsy to do?? It’s enough to make a person want to move to North Korea or join the Occupy protestors in solidarity.

      • ISpeakJive says:

        I just talked to our housesitter, a 22 year-old college graduate (business) who had never heard of the killing fields, didn’t know about Mao and China or why they did what they did in Russia. The whole communist utopia thang? Absolutely no clue. Zero.

        Was showing her pictures of our trip to Phnom Penh and the teeth and bones and cloth still emerging from the ground in the killing fields after the rains.

        I hope it, as they say, raised her awareness of the world she lives in.

      • rightymouse says:

        Gary:

        That’s our public school system for you. Thank you for showing her the pics. What happened in Cambodia and elsewhere in the world under the banner of Communist ‘utopia’ is an absolute travesty to humanity. And worse still, are their current day apologists.

      • rightymouse says:

        Sorry Jive! I meant that for you! 😳

      • ISpeakJive says:

        No problem!

        Went to Thailand on the same trip. We loved Bangkok. Really neat. 🙂

      • rightymouse says:

        Was born & raised in Bangkok. Miss it terribly. My sister goes back frequently.

  52. Speranza says:

    If you combine blogmoc, Diary of Daedalus and Correspondence Committee – the three main LGF diaspora blogs – we far outstrip LGF in the number of comments.

    • snowcrash says:

      Don’t forget Weasel Zippers. He has done quite well with his blog. I think about a third of Ace’s commenters once held accounts at LGF.

  53. P. Ness Lowell says:

    RS McCain is obviously not as influential a blogger as CF Johnson:

    http://theothermccain.com/2012/02/05/newts-narcissism-problem-and-ours/

    Let’s pause, my friends, to recognize that what I write on this blog, and what you reply in the comments, will never change anything about the Republican presidential primary campaign. And we would be guilty of exaggerating our own influence if we thought otherwise.

    See? Now if you were important, like Johnson, you’d take credit for shit that happens.

    • ISpeakJive says:

      I’ve seen a few commenters remark that their contribution to making the world a better place is actually their commenting on LGF. This mentality produces the kind of people who think that downdinging a 4 year old article changes anything. Anything at all. These same people don’t think the United States is exceptional, but LGF is. Such narcissism.

  54. beed says:

    LGF – We go deep into the issues, like politics and shit.

  55. garycooper says:

    It’s always a treat to immerse yourself in the Lefty-morass-mentality, as long as you make sure you’re anchored to a good stout rope. In their world, AGW is a serious threat to mankind, requiring draconian measures to ward off human extinction. In their world, any war involving the US, Israel and/or Great Britain, the opposition is automatically the Good Guys, and we are the cruel oppressors. In their world, the word “terrorist” is never uttered without the ironic two-fingered twinkles next to it, once known by Chunky as “scare quotes.” Unless the terrorist is the US or Israel, in which case no quotes are required, because, you know.

    It’s nice that we have an emissary from their world visiting us, I guess. Now we don’t have to go over to their pigsty-houses to observe them. Hi, Buffalo Bill. 😐

  56. OldLineTexan says:

    Claytonia Sibirica :
    that you unfortunately can’t tell the difference between the left and nazis.
    Apocalyptically bad discernment.

    Wrong. But I don’t expect any less from you. Care to try again?

  57. OldLineTexan says:

    beed :
    You did not adress the most important point: Bears.

    Crappy, or otherwise?

  58. OldLineTexan says:

    Just to make this clear (difference between the Left and Nazis):

    The Nazis were the ones with the snappy uniforms that wanted to kill people like me to better society. The Lefties that want people like me killed to better society typically dress in one of two ways (a) rich Soros-type in tailored finery or (b) useful idiot-type in urine-sodden #Occupy rags.

    See? Simple.

    The more subtle differences (Nazis had somewhat better organization the the US Left, and killed their country somewhat quicker) are for the advanced class. You needn’t worry your pretty little head about those things. Now wring the pee out of your pants and get back to worrying about Fundies destroying the Earth with carbon monoxide producing unaborted babies or whatever it is you’ve been instructed to “rage” against this week.

    • Mouse-ka-Mania says:

      The Nazis had brown shirts. The leftists have brown shit in their underpants.

      • OldLineTexan says:

        But only the #Occupods and other useful thugs, idiots, and well-meaning dupes. The people in charge of the whole sorry mess are calm, cool, and collected. They use deodorants and French-milled soap and smell really good when they sign the documents to ship you off to camp or otherwise strip you of your rights, livelihood, life, property, etc. “for your own good”.

  59. Claytonia Sibirica says:

    dwells38 :
    Wow. Says something about the other blog that you’re posting so prolifically here. Guess there’s not much discussion of interest over there. Ha!

    Well exactly. LGF is boring, and restrictive.

    It’s not always boring but it is always restrictive.

  60. Claytonia Sibirica says:

    beed :
    You did not adress the most important point: Bears.

    My answer is unsatisfying is why, bears isn’t me, that’s somebody else.

    Actually as far as I can tell, it’s nobody. To my understanding LGF has somebody into dinosaurs, somebody into birds (these weirdly don’t overlap), and somebody into magical wolf-sabretooth tiger hybrids. I’m not any of those though.

    My things are actually more embarassing than being a furry, but I’ll never tell!

    • beed says:

      Don’t be embarrassed! John Difool has a lower back tattoo.

      • Claytonia Sibirica says:

        ok fine

        I’m a pedophile.

      • Claytonia Sibirica says:

        I’m also a nazi-fetishist, that’s why I don’t like you guys associating the party with those mud-bastards on the left.

      • beed says:

        * breaking character * Some of us think it’s fun that you stick around, and even though you’re joking, please don’t give that kind of ammunition to the guys who think your being here is less fun * back to beed *

      • Claytonia Sibirica says:

        I tried to pick things that nobody would ever ever take seriously as examples.

        I tend to think of idiotic overliteralism as a LGF thing, not a DoD thing though.

        Still, advice noted, thanks!

      • beed says:

        Yeah, people here are usually not like that, but, you know… I’d hate having to end up defending your honor…

      • Claytonia Sibirica says:

        aww 😀

        don’t worry ’bout me, I’d pull out ‘lol you thought I was serious?!?!’

        Don’t want to make more work for everybody tho’.

  61. Zeus Crankypants says:

    Claytonia Sibirica :

    dwells38 :
    Wow. Says something about the other blog that you’re posting so prolifically here. Guess there’s not much discussion of interest over there. Ha!

    Well exactly. LGF is boring, and restrictive.

    It’s not always boring but it is always restrictive.

    And you question the mission of DoD… yet you just contributed something to this blog that succinctly points out the reason we exist… “LGF is boring, and restrictive”.

    Hey Charles… do you know one of your sycophants is trolling over here and trashing you at the same time? Or is this one of your “clever” plans?

    • Claytonia Sibirica says:

      I don’t criticize the mission, its what got said upthread.

      “It’s okay to be an asshole, its not okay to be unfunny”

      Lame is lame, and half the time, its lame. I’m doing my best to make things more interesting on this side though.

      As to the other, feel free to go report me! I mean its a punkass bitch thing to do, but you’re the ‘actor’ who likes to share private correspondence, so I’d have to grant its in character.

  62. Zeus Crankypants says:

    Claytonia Sibirica :

    beed :
    You did not adress the most important point: Bears.

    My answer is unsatisfying is why, bears isn’t me, that’s somebody else.

    Actually as far as I can tell, it’s nobody. To my understanding LGF has somebody into dinosaurs, somebody into birds (these weirdly don’t overlap), and somebody into magical wolf-sabretooth tiger hybrids. I’m not any of those though.

    My things are actually more embarassing than being a furry, but I’ll never tell!

    You dumb shit… don’t you know what a “bear” is in the gay world. Gee… your a disgrace.

    • beed says:

      You dumb shit… don’t you know what a “bear” is in the gay world. Gee… your a disgrace.

      Ahem. Are you sure that reads the way you intended it to read?

    • Claytonia Sibirica says:

      Furry is more interesting to talk about, its not rocket science.

      Still, I’m also not gay, its still a lame answer.

      Man if I were like Windupbird it would be great though, I’ve seen it… he makes people on here lose their freaking mind by *existing*.

      • beed says:

        WuB is alright. He has many admirerererers here, ISTE being one of them, and Bunk takes fashion hints from him. Bunk is really into neon now.

  63. Lizzards being cold blooded and the globe cooling as it has keeps them from posting due to finger stiffness from the cold.

    Seems Michael Mann failed them too.

  64. Zeus Crankypants says:

    Walter is a leech :

    Walter, please explain why you haven’t had a real job in years and have to leech off the woman you live with.

    Let’s see shithead…

    Since I was laid off from the NAtional Renewable Energy Lab in June of 2005 I’ve worked as a salaried employee or a contractor for…

    Fantasy Distributors
    McKesson Technologies
    Canyon Computer
    Kaiser Permeante (still contracting for them… been four years now.
    Canyon Computer
    Voex
    Lockheed Martin
    Ggallegos and Associates
    Miners Alley Playhouse
    Kroger
    Medical Business Resources

    Now… what were you saying? Another lying lefty from LGF. Charles… if you are going to send your flying monkeys over here… at least supply them with accurate information and not these dishonest lies.

  65. Zeus Crankypants says:

    Claytonia Sibirica :

    Furry is more interesting to talk about, its not rocket science.

    Still, I’m also not gay, its still a lame answer.

    Man if I were like Windupbird it would be great though, I’ve seen it… he makes people on here lose their freaking mind by *existing*.

    Really… I like him, exchange emails with him occasionally, my step daughter has had conversations about his art work, since she is also a artist. Your understanding of folks over here is very narrow… and wrong most of the time.

    • Claytonia Sibirica says:

      trust me I know what of I speak, the times he’s come over here have been pretty damn epic. I honestly was surprised too, apparently folks just can’t handle teh gay.

      The hint is that they treat the gay and the furry parts both as insults. It means they’re not comfortable with them, and consider them insults.

      • Zeus Crankypants says:

        Stop talking for everyone on this blog jerk-wad. I have no problem with WUB. Noting about him or his lifestyle bothers me. So stop your shit broad-brush painting, it makes you look stupider than you are.

      • Claytonia Sibirica says:

        Wow, I was just talking about ‘idiotic overliteralism’ up above.

        It should be clear to everybody that I of course don’t mean ‘everybody’.

        Hell, I’m just fine with gays! I hear ISTE is too!

  66. CS

    In that you have time on your hands you can read this and get an idea how soon the truth will be out on Michael Mann’s e-mails for University of Va.

    http://www.wattsupwiththat.com

    An if you like you may vote for Wattsupwiththat for blog of the year too.

  67. beed says:

    snowcrash :
    Beed is correct. Tell us more about the bear thing.

    I think it is a gay thing, but apparently ol’ Zeusy-pants knows more about this than Clayton, which is, quite frankly, disappointing.

    • Zeus Crankypants says:

      Of course I do… some of my best friends are…

    • Claytonia Sibirica says:

      Most of the gay people I know aren’t culture types, a lot of the old gay subgroups don’t make a lot of sense to the younger crowd.

      (in my experience)

      • Claytonia Sibirica says:

        I admit I should have thought of that though, it was a pretty good doubleplay.

      • beed says:

        I don’t have as much gay experience with the younger crowd as you, but I’m willing to support you on this one: The old gay sub groups don’t make a lot of sense.

    • snowcrash says:

      Exactly. Zeus is an actor. I expect him to know about tons of sordid but fascinating stuff.
      Clay is just a 20 something shit stirrer. We don’t need another, we got you. I hoped he at least had stories. He says he is pedo, but I don’t believe it. (Is that what you mean by ammo? LOL)

      • beed says:

        Snow! I assume that was directed at me, and I’m sorry to inform you I am no longer in my twenties, but my tush is still rock hard. But you knew that.

      • Claytonia Sibirica says:

        I’m relieved you don’t actually believe I’m a pedophile.

  68. Bagua says:

    Claytonia Sibirica :
    bags; that rage is what I’m talking about. you were hating people so bad that you lost your balance and fell off.
    I don’t count it as a clean kill because you were more mad at windie than anyone else.

    I was rarely mad at you windsagio, I occasionally found you annoying, and still do, but you were never more than a poodle and hardly worth “rage” (lol)

    That you didn’t understand my act on LGF, or Walter’s for that matter, is just you gazing in the mirror as opposed to looking with understanding.

    Though you do you best to provoke anger and bask in you self-declared success. I mostly find this part of you, desperate attention seeking, to be pathetic. As is your pretending to be someone you are not.

    You can be funny other-times, but unfortunately your anti-social tenancies do not allow that to flower.

    • Claytonia Sibirica says:

      “I wasn’t mad, I was AMUSED!”

      man I’ve never ever ever ever heard that before.

      One thing I’ve learned all these years on the internet. If somebody says that, they were mad.

    • Claytonia Sibirica says:

      You’re making a basic mistake too, people like you and Zeus (among others) **want** to be mad, you want an outrage to rail against.

      That’s the whole basis of the old LGF culture (and its extensions here and in new LGF culture).

  69. beed says:

    MCHammer, entertainer and entrepreneur, discusses his thoughts on the impact of social media in marketing.

  70. Zeus Crankypants says:

    Bagua :

    Claytonia Sibirica :
    bags; that rage is what I’m talking about. you were hating people so bad that you lost your balance and fell off.
    I don’t count it as a clean kill because you were more mad at windie than anyone else.

    I was rarely mad at you windsagio, I occasionally found you annoying, and still do, but you were never more than a poodle and hardly worth “rage” (lol)

    That you didn’t understand my act on LGF, or Walter’s for that matter, is just you gazing in the mirror as opposed to looking with understanding.

    Though you do you best to provoke anger and bask in you self-declared success. I mostly find this part of you, desperate attention seeking, to be pathetic. As is your pretending to be someone you are not.

    You can be funny other-times, but unfortunately your anti-social tenancies do not allow that to flower.

    What’s so interesting about Windsagio and other plying monkeys from LGF that try to insult me or intimidate me with mentioning my artistic endeavors or my personal life is that I’m so totally public no one can get away with lying about me. There are multiple web pages on the internet that speaks the truth of me. There are hundreds of reference that one can find of my comments on LGF and other blogs.

    Anyone wants to lie about my employment status or my domestic status had better be awful good because they can be shot down rather quickly. And if they think it makes me mad or annoyed, then they don’t know me very well.

    I like to talk about myself so much that any challenge to the details to my personal life is a wide-open opportunity for me to happily go on and on about my favorite topic… ME!

    I know… pathological but true.

    • Claytonia Sibirica says:

      “Intimidate”?

      lol.

      • Zeus Crankypants says:

        Of course you are not able to address my topic, my subject, what I had to say, so you find ways to make fun of my spelling, or my composition or my word usage.

        Weak sauce. What else would I expect from a lefty troll.

      • Claytonia Sibirica says:

        I think you’ve done this one before though, you can’t quite pull off my writing style.

  71. beed says:

    Oh, almost forgot: Kudos to the BRC for a great article!

  72. Claytonia Sibirica says:

    beed :
    I don’t have as much gay experience with the younger crowd as you, but I’m willing to support you on this one: The old gay sub groups don’t make a lot of sense.

    It’s actually a really interesting thing, if I may carry on a bit.

    When being homosexual was more marignalized and fringe, there was more pressure to go to certain places and abide by certain codes of behavior.

    Now that it’s more accepted and normal, you don’t have to do that. It’s why gay dialect is kind of starting to die out (outside SF). It can’t handle being mixed in with the normal culture

  73. Claytonia Sibirica says:

    Zeus, you’re stealing the open book game from WUB, but he does it better.

    You’re too… sensitive about things to pull that off. That schtick takes a tranquility of spirit that you simply lack.

  74. beed says:

    Claytonia Sibirica :
    Wow, I was just talking about ‘idiotic overliteralism’ up above.
    It should be clear to everybody that I of course don’t mean ‘everybody’.
    Hell, I’m just fine with gays! I hear ISTE is too!

    You may have heard that from me, and I probably shouldn’t have started that rumor, because he’s not always gay.

  75. Zeus Crankypants says:

    Claytonia Sibirica :

    Zeus, you’re stealing the open book game from WUB, but he does it better.

    You’re too… sensitive about things to pull that off. That schtick takes a tranquility of spirit that you simply lack.

    Actually if you were with in arms length of me I would beat the ever loving shit out of you… just for the fun of it. I have lots of fun with jerks and asshole like you on the internet, because I have less to worry about in regards to the legalities in hurting someone physically. But don’t get me wrong, don’t underestimate me and don’t think that we in any way have some sort of “friendship” going on here… or anywhere. You are at the bottom of the slime-ladder, a jerk-wad of a human, who thinks he has some cute and quaint handle on the modern social elements of being a cyber-pussy, a punk warrior in this brave new world.

    Because nothing has really changed. The base and bottom level of life on this planet always comes down to the same thing. You’re not immortal, you are no more than a piece of meat, and your survival is not dependent on your cleverness, it’s dependent on not running into the person that will cut your feet out from under you… literally.

    Look down if you would like to know how high you stand.

    (P.S. I typed this with a smile on my face and laughing. You have this armchair psychologist misconception that when someone writes snark on the internet, they are really mad. Let me let you in on something. There are actually people that get a woody putting asshole like you in their place)

    • Bunk X says:

      Why does it always have to be about Beed?

    • Claytonia Sibirica says:

      Oh don’t worry, I think you’re a pathetic miserable old man who is trying take his unhappiness out on everyone around him.

    • snowcrash says:

      I seldom think of the feet cutters. Probably a big mistake.

      • OldLineTexan says:

        Still not as important as wearing chainmail briefs to protect against the circumcision fairies. Some of them are a little on the blind side, and a man could lose … status, if you catch my drift.

      • OldLineTexan says:

        Nothing worse than waking to the sound of some near-sighted pixie wielding a tiny axe and shouting “Timber!” in the bottom half of your Dr. Denton’s.

    • John Difool says:

      Zeus, I wouldn’t waste one ounce of testosterone getting all worked up over an unprincipled nihilist who takes great enjoyment out of flinging poo out of both sides of it’s cage.

      I guess everyone has a little nihilist in them somewhere………in fact the one in me just for shits and giggles if he had the power to do so, would ban the little shit and then send his IP over to Chunky so he could ban the little shit over there too.

      Of course that’s what the little nihilist in me would do….not the actual me.

  76. beed says:

    Frenemies!

  77. Zeus Crankypants says:

    Claytonia Sibirica :

    Oh don’t worry, I think you’re a pathetic miserable old man who is trying take his unhappiness out on everyone around him.

    It was a little difficult to understand who that remark was for? You want to spell it out?

  78. Zeus Crankypants says:

    snowcrash :

    I seldom think of the feet cutters. Probably a big mistake.

    Otherwise know as hobbling.

  79. Zeus Crankypants says:

    Claytonia Sibirica :

    its hard, there are a few. The type totally infests this part of the internet.

    I’ll ask you one more time chicken shit “who that remark was for? You want to spell it out?”

  80. Mandingo Warrior says:

    Blood is pumping on the DoD here today. We need to get ZC and CS an octagon here on the DoD for maximum insultage.

  81. Zeus Crankypants says:

    Claytonia Sibirica :

    its hard, there are a few. The type totally infests this part of the internet.

    Here you are.

  82. Zeus Crankypants says:

    Claytonia Sibirica :

    Oh don’t worry, I think you’re a pathetic miserable old man who is trying take his unhappiness out on everyone around him.

    I’m not unhappy, far from it. I’m making 30 dollars an hour sitting at home in my mountain lair, programming, looking out at the 28 inches of snow we got on Thursday, Friday and Sat., nice and toasty, listening to conservative talk radio over the internet on my Kindle Fire, my two cats curled up near the wood pellet stove, Maisey the parrot with in eye-shot of me. And the only person I am taking anything out on is you. Tearing you a new asshole (for you to share with WUB).

  83. It is the ones who never say a word that you have to watch out for.

  84. ryannon says:

    OldLineTexan :
    All is beed. Beed is all.

    Credit where credit is due.

    All others pay cash.

  85. ryannon says:

    That sure stopped things.

    Ok guys, just pretend I’m not here.

  86. Bagua says:

    Claytonia Sibirica :
    You’re making a basic mistake too, people like you and Zeus (among others) **want** to be mad, you want an outrage to rail against.
    That’s the whole basis of the old LGF culture (and its extensions here and in new LGF culture).

    Nope, that is the whole basis of your lack of understanding windsagio.

    Try to think for yourself, and stop pretending you know what others are secretly thinking. Your analysis is biased, weak and as bogus and unattractive as you pretending to be a girl by wearing a dress.

    The whole basis of the culture at LGF, by the time you had joined, was to mock and taunt the freaks during the crash and burn phase, something Zeus and I enjoyed laughing about behind the scenes.

    You were never more than an ankle biter Windsagio, thousands of your posts on LGF and here prove that.

    That you dedicate your efforts at both social blogs to angering those you pester and annoy, speaks more to your own character than those you target.

    • dwells38 says:

      I don’t thnk there’s any targeting going on there though. Just run-of-the-mil trolling and not done very well.