Charles says “But I really don’t understand this kind of thinking.”

Charles is having trouble understanding how Turner, 70 years old, a Catholic, who has never held any public office before could have had this kind of support.

“I am a registered Democrat, I have always been a registered Democrat, I come from a family of Democrats — and I hate to say this, I voted Republican,” said Linda Goldberg, 61, after casting her ballot in Queens. “I need to send a message to the president that he’s not doing a very good job. Our economy is horrible. People are scared.”

Maybe he needs to read the New York Times?

Seeing Ripple in Jewish Vote (NYT Published: September 14, 2011)

WASHINGTON — Not since Jimmy Carter in 1980 has a Democrat running for president failed to win a lopsided majority of the Jewish vote. This has been true during times of peace or war, and even when there has been deep acrimony between the White House and the Israeli government.

Sensing trouble, the Obama campaign and Democratic Party leaders have mobilized to solidify the president’s standing with Jewish voters. The Democratic National Committee has established a Jewish outreach program. The campaign is singling out Jewish groups, donors and other supporters with calls and e-mails to counter the Republican narrative that Mr. Obama is hostile to Israel.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/15/us/politics/obama-israel-policies-may-cost-democrats-votes.html?_r=1&hp

In a backhanded way, even the Nutty Professor Ludwig tries to explain it to Charles.

LudwigVanQuixote
Wed, Sep 14, 2011 10:25:42am
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Unfortunately, many in the Orthodox community – particularly the more black hat end of it and particularly amongst older voters, have drunk some the the GOP cool-aid. This is largely due to Obama’s policies – or lack of policies in the mid-East.

And he get 7 up dings for speaking against the Lizard Queen Charles.

The New York Times article sums it up nicely.

(NYT) The nub of the problem, Mr. Engel said, is that Mr. Obama tends to blame Israel and the Palestinians equally for the impasse in the Middle East — an equivalence many Jewish voters find objectionable. He said this visceral reaction prevented Jews from giving the president credit for the positive aspects of his policy.

You’re stuck on stupid Charles.

201 Charles
Wed, Sep 14, 2011 12:15:25pm
+12

The idea that the Obama administration is doing anything different in regards to Israel than any other US administration is a ludicrous, easily disprovable lie. The kind of lie only a dedicated right winger pretends to believe.

Sure Charles, keep believing that, don’t worry that even the New York Times and many other left-wing pundits and media outlets are stating the obvious.

(NYT) Still, American Jews are clearly less enchanted with Mr. Obama than they were in 2008, when nearly 8 out of 10 voted for him (in a Gallup poll last July, the most recent month for which data was available, his approval rating was 60 percent). Jewish lawmakers have been warning the White House that this disaffection could hurt the president in turnout, fund-raising and enthusiasm.

As Rush said yesterday “it’s just another bitch slap.” How did that feel Charles?

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27 Comments on “Charles says “But I really don’t understand this kind of thinking.””

  1. Lord Nazh says:

    Chuck not understanding? Water is wet, film at 11.

  2. ISpeakJive says:

    So Chuck basically called Ludwig a dedicated right-winger. That’s very funny.

    Chuck, quit being the DNC’s buttboy and think for yourself.

  3. Voltaires Crack says:

    Turkey promising to break the Gaza blockade.

    Potential UN vote on a Palestinian state resolution.

    Rising anti-Israel sentiment in Egypt.

    Obama’s position?

    Could get interesting over at the swamp.

  4. Voltaires Crack says:

    Just for laughs, can anyone with an account find out whether any of the folks that updinged Ludwig also updinged Charles? A list of the dingers for both posts would be nice to have either way if anybody has the time.

  5. Doppelganger says:

    Charles, you are finally correct in one of your statements.

    ” You really don’t understand”

    finally you admit to being clueless. Now it’s official. 100% of people on earth realize you don’t get it

  6. Doppelganger says:

    Charles, those Jews are just protecting their wealth.

    wink wink

  7. garycooper says:

    Those hook-nosed Jews are just protecting their ill-gotten wealth, Chunky. Especially in “Hymietown,” as your Rev. Jesse Jackson calls it.

    That rift I mentioned last night, that will send Lewdy over to Atlas Shrugs? Yeah, it’s happening. LOL.

  8. Voltaires Crack says:

    Palestinians to Seek Full U.N. Membership Sept. 23

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/09/15/palestinians-to-seek-full-un-membership-sept-23/#ixzz1Y24zWjFC

    RAMALLAH, West Bank – The Palestinians will ask the Security Council next week to accept them as a full member of the United Nations, the top Palestinian diplomat said Thursday — a move that comes in defiance of Washington’s threat to veto the statehood bid.

  9. Arachne says:

    “The idea that the Obama administration is doing anything different in regards to Israel than any other US administration is a ludicrous, easily disprovable lie.”

    Quick, Chunkie! Contact the asshats at AttackWatch!
    Must have missed Bush telling the Jews they can’t build in Jerusalem.

  10. garycooper says:

    Unfortunately, many in the Orthodox community – particularly the more black hat end of it and particularly amongst older voters, have drunk some the the GOP cool-aid.

    But, Lewd-Skank…it seems YOU have been partaking of the refreshing beverage. Mighty suspicious, your unbending, unquestioning support of the Zionist position. Have a martyr-pancake, and explain yourself.

  11. MedChemmer says:

    Quick side-kick Killgore Trout, to the RaceMobile.

  12. rightymouse says:

    Poor Charles. Denial is such a sad thing to watch. I could cry. **sniff**

  13. Voltaires Crack says:

    Looks like Chuck had another fail post in re Attack Watch.

    Fox News ran a story referencing a Washington Post article calling Obama’s re-vamped exercise in paranoia ‘a laughing stock of the Internet’. Chuck makes fun of Fox for referencing ‘the whole Internet’, though that quote was part of the Post’s article.

    You see, the Post article did call Attack Watch the laughing stock of the Internet but at a later point (call from the WH, maybe?) they scrubbed their article, replacing the word ‘internet’ with ‘conservatives’ (sound familiar, anybody).

    It looks like someone has pointed out the fallacy of holding Fox responsible for Wapo’s words. Obdicut doesn’t like it and is waving his hands,

    506 Obdicut Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:48:03am

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    #504 TNChuckster

    How many times are you guys going to bring up the same thing? Yes, the Post edited their headline to remove some of the derp. Fox didn’t. It’s all rather trivial, too, given that the real story is the depth and breadth and sleaziness of the attacks on Obama that made such a site necessary, and the dishonesty of the reaction to it in the ‘right-wing’ blogosphere.

    Thinking is teh hard when you have a knife stuck in your butt.

    • Pakimon says:

      If that’s the case, Ludwig’s strategy of “shaming” his way into the slut locker bunker will surely be derailed by the Asswhistle.

      He’ll just have to be one of the billions who will die.

    • gizbot7 says:

      I like how they cited biblical rapture as one of the possibilities. Guess they know they’re still gonna be here. LOL

    • Pakimon says:

      Speaking of Luddy and Asswhistle, too bad we never got anymore “morning funnies” from Bagua.

  14. Mark says:

    The problem isn’t that Chuck needs to read the NYT, the problem is that he does read the NYT on Israel and believes every word of it.

  15. “The idea that the Obama administration is doing anything different in regards to Israel than any other US administration is a ludicrous, easily disprovable lie. The kind of lie only a dedicated right winger pretends to believe. ”

    Al-chuki is just an Obama ass kissing moonbat, and extremely ignorant.
    This is for the stalkers.

    “Why Obama Is Losing the Jewish Vote
    He doesn’t have a ‘messaging’ problem. He has a record of bad policies and anti-Israel rhetoric.

    …..Here is an inventory of what Mr. Obama’s aides will have to address:

    • February 2008: When running for president, then-Sen. Obama told an audience in Cleveland: “There is a strain within the pro-Israel community that says unless you adopt an unwavering pro-Likud approach to Israel that you’re anti-Israel.” Likud had been out of power for two years when Mr. Obama made this statement. At the time the country was being led by the centrist Kadima government of Ehud Olmert, Tzipi Livni and Shimon Peres, and Prime Minister Olmert had been pursuing an unprecedented territorial compromise. As for Likud governments, it was under Likud that Israel made its largest territorial compromises—withdrawals from Sinai and Gaza.

    • July 2009: Mr. Obama hosted American Jewish leaders at the White House, reportedly telling them that he sought to put “daylight” between America and Israel. “For eight years”—during the Bush administration—”there was no light between the United States and Israel, and nothing got accomplished,” he declared.

    Nothing? Prime Minister Ariel Sharon uprooted thousands of settlers from their homes in Gaza and the northern West Bank and deployed the Israeli army to forcibly relocate their fellow citizens. Mr. Sharon then resigned from the Likud Party to build a majority party based on a two-state consensus.

    In the same meeting with Jewish leaders, Mr. Obama told the group that Israel would need “to engage in serious self-reflection.” This statement stunned the Americans in attendance: Israeli society is many things, but lacking in self-reflection isn’t one of them. It’s impossible to envision the president delivering a similar lecture to Muslim leaders.

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    Stuart Balberg of Brooklyn, New York, calls voters on behalf of Bob Turner, Republican candidate for the congressional seat vacated by Democrat Anthony Weiner.

    • September 2009: In his first address to the U.N. General Assembly, President Obama devoted five paragraphs to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, during which he declared (to loud applause) that “America does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements.” He went on to draw a connection between rocket attacks on Israeli civilians with living conditions in Gaza. There was not a single unconditional criticism of Palestinian terrorism.

    • March 2010: During Vice President Joe Biden’s visit to Israel, a Jerusalem municipal office announced plans for new construction in a part of Jerusalem. The president launched an unprecedented weeks-long offensive against Israel. Mr. Biden very publicly departed Israel.

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton berated Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on a now-infamous 45-minute phone call, telling him that Israel had “harmed the bilateral relationship.” (The State Department triumphantly shared details of the call with the press.) The Israeli ambassador was dressed-down at the State Department, Mr. Obama’s Middle East envoy canceled his trip to Israel, and the U.S. joined the European condemnation of Israel.

    Moments after Mr. Biden concluded his visit to the West Bank, the Palestinian Authority held a ceremony to honor Dalal Mughrabi, who led one of the deadliest Palestinian terror attacks in history: the so-called Coastal Road Massacre that killed 38, including 13 children and an American. The Obama administration was silent. But that same day, on ABC, Mr. Axelrod called Israel’s planned construction of apartments in its own capital an “insult” and an “affront” to the United States. Press Secretary Robert Gibbs went on Fox News to accuse Mr. Netanyahu of “weakening trust” between the two countries.

    Ten days later, Mr. Netanyahu traveled to Washington to mend fences but was snubbed at a White House meeting with President Obama—no photo op, no joint statement, and he was sent out through a side door.

    • April 2010: Mr. Netanyahu pulled out of the Obama-sponsored Washington summit on nuclear proliferation after it became clear that Turkey and Egypt intended to use the occasion to condemn the Israeli nuclear program, and Mr. Obama would not intervene.

    • March 2011: Mr. Obama returned to his habit of urging Israelis to engage in self-reflection, inviting Jewish community leaders to the White House and instructing them to “search your souls” about Israel’s dedication to peace.

    • May 2011: The State Department issued a press release declaring that the department’s No. 2 official, James Steinberg, would be visiting “Israel, Jerusalem, and the West Bank.” In other words, Jerusalem is not part of Israel. Later in the month, only hours before Mr. Netanyahu departed from Israel to Washington, Mr. Obama delivered his Arab Spring speech, which focused on a demand that Israel return to its indefensible pre-1967 borders with land swaps.

    Mr. Obama has made some meaningful exceptions, particularly having to do with security partnership, but overall he has built the most consistently one-sided diplomatic record against Israel of any American president in generations. His problem with Jewish voters is one of substance, not messaging.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904353504576568710341742174.html