Tech Note: LGF Pages Statistics Explained

Nine short months ago, Johnson put up a thread with this exact same title (littlegreenfootballs.com/article/37262).  In the interim, however, some things have changed, so The Boiler Room feels it’s appropriate to resurrect it and get our readers and the LGF lurkers back up to speed.

To start, we’re also going to borrow the visual aid from the thread:

1. The member “rating” counter has since moved to the bottom left of each page, and is just as meaningless as a popularity counter as the day these were implemented. Case in point, my Pam Geller page had a +13 rating…before Johnson rudely tossed it into the memory hole.

2. The counter that CJ and the lizards referred to as a “retweet” or “tweet” counter, has been fact-checked and revealed to…not actually count tweets (rather, “clicks”).  In fact, the counter is not connected to twitter at all. In comparison to the tweet counters on virtually every other blog and website (including the one here at DoD), the number displayed here is going to be grossly inflated.

3. The “clicks” counter has been suspected to be FUBAR for quite some time (in fact, even Killgore could see it).  It was recently removed altogether by CJ under the lame guise of being “outdated” and “not meaningful”.  We think it was out of embarrassment (many of the counters displayed “0” clicks, even weeks after being published).

4. The “views” counter was fact-checked by The Boiler Room and also proven to be fraudulent, both by the unique technique of the “front page effect“, as well as  in the way the custom-built counter reacted to visitors’ clicks. In combination, these factors result in what we estimate as an inflation of at least 4x over what a normal view counter would tabulate on a blog like ours.  However, the design is so convoluted and the methodology so disingenuous that we must admit that, after tracking threads, observing traffic patterns and watching these counters, the exact inflation factor is hard to pin down.  In any case, like the “tweets”, the values are worthless in comparison to every other blog.

Looking at it again, the only statistic in that screencap that isn’t a complete joke is the timestamp (although even that is screwed up by a few hours on the pre-’07  main page threads, as we understand it was a side-effect of the big SQL conversion).

And the other “counter” that isn’t visible there is the one that counts the Page’s comments, and that one appears to work (although the grand total counter for the LGF archives is still technically off by 32,531).

I guess the bottom line here is that CJ appears to be pretty awful at counting…anything.  But, hey, maybe the tech support at bit.ly will be just what the doctor ordered:


125 Comments on “Tech Note: LGF Pages Statistics Explained”

  1. livefreeor die says:

    Looking at this, my reaction is similar to what I have to Obama-can anyone screw things up this much unintentionally?

  2. rightymouse says:

    Charles must have known what he was doing. After all, he’s a programmer. He couldn’t have been that incompetent to have messed things up so badly. Right?????

  3. Oh no, Charles can be fooled that easily. The right had him fooled too. But no more I tell you, NO MORE!!

  4. Mandingo Warrior says:

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  6. song_and_dance_man says:

    I bet he undercounts the Cheetos he consumes.

  7. freetaxkiller says:

    Looks like I will have to make up a new nic, have it join lgf’s and work the CO2 is toxi death to all man kind, do that two/three weeks and then admit I’m Ludwigg and beg Charles to allow me to stay as Ludwigg.

    Might work uh?

    • Whatever says:

      He returned yesterday. Kinda lame. Not really up to his old standards. Maybe he can focus on Bachmann. I can see him getting all worked up into a slurpee over her.

  8. freetaxkiller says:

    How this nic sound as the new Ludwigg… “Earth First CO2 Hero”.

  9. Pretzel Logic says:

    Whatever :
    Oh noes!!! Dutch denier libertarian Fascists!!!
    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/06/28/vvd-dutch-classical-liberals-are-fed-up-with-royal-met-office-ask-for-its-dissolution/

    People are simply guilty of blindly believing their favorite piece of software, apparently ignorant of the limitations of non-integrating propagation.

    • Whatever says:

      What software? Weiner’s wiener?

      • Pretzel Logic says:

        Ya think I may have been talking about climate modeling software? Ya Think? Or was the reference to obscure and nuanced for ya.

      • Whatever says:

        Jones is famous for his (readme Harry) FORTRAN junk, but it isn’t really modelling, although it’s close enough for climate science. It’s a little too flattering to call that spaghetti a “statistical model”, although they do flatter themselves muchly.

        If NASA used their climate software QC procedures (yeah, I know this is CRU, but humor me) for real rocket science, we’d have dozens of astronauts in the bottom of the oceans. And a few holes in the ground, too.

  10. Pretzel Logic says:

    Whatever :
    Jones is famous for his (readme Harry) FORTRAN junk, but it isn’t really modelling, although it’s close enough for climate science. It’s a little too flattering to call that spaghetti a “statistical model”, although they do flatter themselves muchly.
    If NASA used their climate software QC procedures (yeah, I know this is CRU, but humor me) for real rocket science, we’d have dozens of astronauts in the bottom of the oceans. And a few holes in the ground, too.

    It’s all interdependent… CRU, Jones’ FORTRAN junk, NASA’s databases, borrow this, borrow that, make up new datasets, pass them around, can’t even find the legacy data points if their life depended on it. It’s all obvious to anyone with a little sense, the ability to read English and no political ideology to support.

  11. poteen says:

    Michele Bachmann (R-Mars) Refuses to Admit She Was Wrong About Founding Fathers
    Very weird behavior

    Charles Johnson
    Wingnuts • Tue Jun 28, 2011 at 10:45 am PDT • Views: 4,164

    Somebody with a sock care to mention to Charlie and his 3rd grade historians that the importation of slaves was outlawed in the first decade of the 19th century, when the government was chock full of ‘founding fathers’? I’d call that working to end slavery. Maroons.

  12. Pretzel Logic says:

    Interesting thread on LGF right now.

    American Family Association’s Bryan Fischer: Homosexuals Are Child Molesters
    Just another blast of anti-gay hatred from the religious right
    Charles Johnson
    WINGNUTS • Tue Jun 28, 2011 at 1:45 pm PDT • Views: 660

    Bryan Fischer of the religious right organization American Family Association (a co-sponsor of Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s upcoming prayer rally) puts his unique spin on Michele Bachmann’s “John Wayne” gaffe — according to Fischer, it was a big mistake for liberals to bring up John Wayne Gacy because homosexuals are child molesters.

    But here’s the pit into which the left has fallen, the one they tried to dig for Ms. Bachmann. They are going out of their way to remind us of John Wayne Gacy, who was a homicidal homosexual pedophile who raped and murdered 33 boys and young men, most of whom he buried in the crawl space of his house. The rest he dumped off a bridge into the Des Plaines River.

    So liberals, by going out of their way to snarkily remind us of John Wayne Gacy, are inadvertently reminding us of the clear connection between homosexuality and pedophilia, which isn’t the smartest thing they’ve ever done.

    Homosexuals comprise less than three percent of the population, but are responsible for fully a third of all instances of pedophilia. A study of 229 convicted child molesters in Archives of Sexual Behavior revealed that 86% of the offenders against males self-identified as homosexual or bisexual. Eighty-six percent!

    Bottom line: homosexual or bisexual men are about 10 times more likely to molest children than heterosexual men. Big “Whoops!” for the libs on this one. And they’ve got no one but themselves to blame.

    Make what you want to of Bryan Fischer (I think he’s a religious fundamental fanatic), but so far no one on the LGF thread has decided to debate the statistics stated by Archives of Sexual Behavior. The Archives of Sexual Behavior are a well-respected peer-reviewed group of scientists and doctors who don’t go around making knee-jerk statements and propagating World Net Daily sort of headlines.

    Hey LGF, let’s debate the science in the article?

    • Whatever says:

      Homosexuals aren’t pedophiles except when they’re Catholic priests.

      Chuck can’t have that both ways.

    • Mr Caps says:

      John Wayne Gacy was also a member of the democrat party.
      link

    • poteen says:

      For anecdotal proof, check your local sex offender list. 8 out of 10 will be males convicted of molesting boys.
      I’ve always found it interesting that Charlie is so charged about Catholic priests and their abuse of children as though the cause is their Catholicism and not their homosexuality.

      • Mr Caps says:

        I once found 2 co-workers on here.

        http://www.familywatchdog.us/

      • Doppelganger says:

        I really think that’s why the press jumped so hard on the whole ” pedophile priest” meme.

        in fact, a large percentage of these cases ( tragic as they were ) involved gay priests and teenage boys.
        far far older than the definition of pedophilia requires.

        so really, the church had a homosexuality scandal as much or greater than a pedophilia scandal

      • Mr Caps says:

        It’s called the jetliner effect.
        Thousands of jetliners take off and land every day but when one of them crashes the story gets plastered all over the news.

      • poteen says:

        Believe me they had/have a problem. Even in my mother’s parish it all but gutted their staff. 4 out of 5 went down including the pastor. They pulled a guy out of retirement to fill in then an old abuse claim took him out. He was 83.
        I thought mom was gonna go Presbyterian for a while./

      • gizbot7 says:

        poteen :
        For anecdotal proof, check your local sex offender list. 8 out of 10 will be males convicted of molesting boys.
        I’ve always found it interesting that Charlie is so charged about Catholic priests and their abuse of children as though the cause is their Catholicism and not their homosexuality.

        Although I do not equate homosexuality with pedophilia (even within the Catholic Church), I agree that Charles (as usual) has his guns pointed in the wrong direction. But that is what he does best: he grabs the low hanging fruit that supports his own small world view and to hell with the complicated details.

      • beed says:

        Heh. Charles is to nuance what bulldozing is to gardening.

      • poteen says:

        By no means did I intend to equate homosexuality with pedophilia.
        But within certain groups certain behaviors are more prevalent.
        The stats are what they are.
        The Irish drink, fight and fornicate at a statistically high level. (Or did)
        80% of the inmates in the Orange County Jail system are Hispanic. Different views can be expressed as to why but the number is fact.

      • gizbot7 says:

        poteen :
        By no means did I intend to equate homosexuality with pedophilia.
        But within certain groups certain behaviors are more prevalent.
        The stats are what they are.
        The Irish drink, fight and fornicate at a statistically high level. (Or did)
        80% of the inmates in the Orange County Jail system are Hispanic. Different views can be expressed as to why but the number is fact.

        You get no argument from me on that, except the Irish part as I’m part Irish. Oh wait… well shit.

  13. Doppelganger says:

    Gacy would be a Lizard in good standing today if he was alive. Probably have a similar style to kilgore trout. I think they would be fast friends

    bank on that

  14. Doppelganger says:

    I wonder if wind up bird likes teddy bears?

  15. beed says:

    I’m starting to believe we can’t trust Charles Johnson when it comes to numbers and counting…

      • beed says:

        Very good. That should make the front page.

      • swamprat says:

        He actually banned someone for quoting “the count” (5! BLAH! 5!) because it was a popular culture reference that he was unfamiliar with. I believe the person was later re-instated and banned for something entirely different at a later date.

        No sesame street experience al all.

  16. brookly red says:

    beed :
    I’m starting to believe we can’t trust Charles Johnson when it comes to numbers and counting…

    I seem to remember him as being an ACORN denier…

  17. rightymouse says:

    I think Charles is using an abacus to do math and translating the answers from Mandarin into Californian gibberish.

  18. beed :
    I’m starting to believe we can’t trust Charles Johnson when it comes to numbers and counting…

    Your a right-wing neo nazi.

    /KKKilgore trout.

  19. snowcrash says:

    The comment content is getting a little thin. Is everyone eating or driving home or something?

  20. gizbot7 says:

    Acceptance of intimidation towards innocent women? Shocked I tell ya. But then, maybe if Darthdouche listened to what actually happened he would think differently. Yeah, right.

    60 darthstar Tue, Jun 28, 2011 2:43:42pm replyquote

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    re: #58 Killgore Trout

    Tearful Glenn Beck Describes How He And His Family Were Attacked In New York Park (video)

    “attacked” means some people were rude to him as he watched one of those free (government sponsored) movies in central park. He boo hoo’s that nobody stood up for him.

    Maybe Beck should just stay in his studio – he’s happier there and his family is probably happier with him there.

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    re: #59 Rightwingconspirator

    I had no idea pointing and laughing was assault.
    //

    Pointing is rude.
    Laughing is even more rude.
    Doing the two together is…how everyone should engage Glenn Beck.

    And the voice of reason gets:

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    re: #68 Alexzander

    I dun oh – I’m about 5:30 min through the video and I think Glenn Beck actually sounds pretty reasonable.

    Last thread you said Chuck Baldwin and Gary Johnson have integrity.

    You’re on a roll.

  21. mrpaulrevere says:

    Registration is open puppeteers….

    • ChenZhen says:

      Gosh I’ve never seen the sales pitch before. Maybe he should try free t shirts, or channel Billy Mays or something. LOL

      • mrpaulrevere says:

        At what point does he abandon the charade? It’s laughable at this point.

      • ElSuerte says:

        You get the ability to jump into the verbal brawl and post comments, and upload an image as your personal icon. And you can upload images to insert into your comments.

        Bwahaha, oh man. I think CJ is forgetting an important caveat there…

        5 Mr Pancakes6/28/2011 6:21:34 pm PDT

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        Verbal brawls usually don’t end well.

        /5/9137349

      • Opilio says:

        And jaunte retweeted it twice, along with someone who may or may not be Killgore.

        Freestyle Moderated Political Debate?

        https://bitly.com/lQfoD1+

      • ChenZhen says:

      • snowcrash says:

        Yeah, lotsa fun. I really enjoy it when they treat long time posters like steve and dark falcon and Ludwig like dirt. It is even more fun when they mercilessly savage the newbies. LGF is all about the good times, for sure.

      • Bunk X says:

        1,600 views in less than two hours seems about right, and he’s fishing for IPs again.

      • gizbot7 says:

        Why all of the sudden is he on a witch hunt? Between the sekrit thread and now announcing registration, it seems like his paranoia is worse than usual.

      • Bunk X says:

        It’s not a recent phenomena. He’s had his correlator tool for some time, but he also has other little dealies to flush out the non-believers.

  22. mrpaulrevere says:

    A special treat to my friend ‘whatever’, in case you haven’t read it already: The Failure of Al Gore: Part Deux http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2011/06/27/the-failure-of-al-gore-part-deux/

  23. Mandingo Warrior says:

  24. Grand Junctionite says:

    Open over an hour. 2 registrations and zero comments. I know who one was, which one of you were the other LOL

  25. Banshee says:

    Sad. Chunk is practically begging people to register.

    But he forgot to mention the free tote bag.

  26. Mr Caps says:

    Doppelganger :
    2006– LGF had a couple of great boobs ( as shown)
    2011–Now all that remains at LGF are boobs

    Moobs

  27. mrpaulrevere says:

    Charles Johnson is the Nora Desmond of the blogosphere.

  28. Bunk X says:

    OT– If anyone missed The BlogMock Radio Show last Sunday, download it, open it up in your player and jump to 1:53:00 for a treat: Secrets of The Boiler Room.

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/blogmocracy/2011/06/27/blogmocracy-live-06-26-2011

  29. Bunk X says:

    OT x 2– Gas 812 was 75% full of shit about Architects yesterday. He’s not one.

  30. swamprat says:

    I think Bachman has replaced the esteemed, vivacious Ms Geller as his object of obsession. He has several threads devoted to her, including one supposedly about republicans not liking science or something, but it is a Bachman thread, still.

  31. garycooper says:

    Inspired by the dauntless BRC, I did my own little investigation into the whereabouts of the recently-AWOL Lewd-Maniac. The job took me into some places I never dreamed of going, such as Cimmeria and Middle Earth. Finally, I found photographic evidence of his sabbatical, and trust me, he wasn’t sitting idly by while sluts ran rampant and unashamed through the world.

    I give you, Ludwig Von Quixote, Slut-Shamer and Knight Who Says “Ni:”

    http://tinyurl.com/3luhh8y

  32. Bunk X says:

    51 Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 28, 2011 6:43:16pm
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    Two Spanish speaking ladies were very excited to discover my quinoa and aramanth crop growing on the parking strip this afternoon. I have no idea what they were saying but they were chattering at a million miles per minute.

    “¡Wow! ¿Has visto eso? Nunca he visto una babosa que grande!”
    “Sí. Yo también lo vi! Grande como un gato!”
    “Es verdad! Y así baboso! Se comió todos sus kale!”

    • Bunk X says:

      76 Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 28, 2011 6:52:21pm
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      Well, just keep the slugs off the kale till them and you’ll be fine.

      They’ll just photoshop them on anyways.

      • Bunk X says:

        92 Dark_Falcon Tue, Jun 28, 2011 7:00:18pm
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        They’ll just photoshop them on anyways.

        I’m concerned for your crop, not what the “fan club” thinks. If Killgore’s crops are healthy, it’ll be a good thing. Of course the Stalkers will deny it, but that what they do. As has been said here many times, one cannot let those people get to you.

        Dork Falcon is concerned for a crop, and so are we. Don’t deny Killgore’s crop. It’s tough to grow food in the median strip.

  33. Mandingo Warrior says:

    “Ay, es lo guerro boracho de kale.”

  34. Mr Caps says:

    Whatever :
    Don’t piss a little dog off is you don’t want ookie on your carpet and chewed up Birkenstocks.

    Nice doggie 😈

  35. Banshee :
    Of course, just because Chunk detests her doesn’t mean she’s not an idiot.

    Just because you Pwn chuck doesn’t mean your smart.

  36. rain of lead says:

    Amazon May Stop Business in California Over Sales Tax
    http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/1028827036001/amazon-may-stop-business-in-california-over-sales-tax/?playlist_id=87185&test=MM

    Cheeto eating shut-ins hardest hit

  37. Chuckie to accuse catholics of coercing amazon to do that because they oppose birth control in 4…3…2…1…

  38. Bunk X says:

    217 marjoriemoon Tue, Jun 28, 2011 8:18:23pm
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    Where are all the newbies at?

    Both are playing foosball in the Boiler Room, maggie.

    • Pakimon says:

      I’ll have you know that Majorie Moon is a vegetarian.

      I also have it on good authority that she’ll outlive all the septuagenarians.

      Just thought I’d pass that along.

  39. Pakimon says:

    ChenZhen, as The Minotaur :
    I live in MN. That meme’s got merit.

    Given that she was put into office by the same state that elected Jesse “The Body” Ventura and Al Franken, you could be right. 😀

  40. Golden Nugget says:

  41. Lord Nazh says:

    New thread time?

  42. Bunk X :
    Um, dude. Makes that sense no.

    Since when has Charles made sense?

  43. Bachmann is gaffe prone but so is the messiah you willingly voted for and will vote for again in 2012 Chen.

  44. charpete says:

    Pakimon :

    ChenZhen, as The Minotaur :
    I live in MN. That meme’s got merit.

    Given that she was put into office by the same state that elected Jesse “The Body” Ventura and Al Franken, you could be right.

    I live in MN and the only reason that meme has merit is the loony press…Bachmann makes BO look like a mental midget (is it little people now?) BO is a gaffe machine that the press ignores.

  45. Pakimon says:

    <

    As different as “minuscule” and “infinitesimal”!

    Must…deflect…ridicule …from….Chunky,,,,and….Obama! 😆

  46. charpete says:

    Banshee :
    As different as “minuscule” and “infinitesimal”!

    Alec…’sat u?

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/28/alec-baldwin-bachmann-inarticulate-full-of-st-someone-to-be-feared/

  47. Pakimon says:

    Dammit!

    Where’d those commas come from?

    Damn typos.

    Must..suppress…rage…..