You be the Judge

Last night, a commentator named Baby Giraffes dropped a bombshell on the truth about Charles Johnson. One of our admins put the comments in pending because he felt it was not appropriate. After reviewing with other admins and even consulting someone with legal experience, we decided to publish it. The reason being is that after reading the comments, it really explains Chuck’s mindset. Also, The Jazz Man has smeared and lied about many public figures and is in no position to cry about what is said below.


Comments by babygiraffes

Sigh.
I’ve hesitated a long time writing this post, for reasons which will become apparent when you read it.

Have you ever seen the movie “Reversal of Fortune” with Jeremy Irons playing Claus Von Bulow, and Ron Silver’s character Allan Dershowitz says “You’re a very strange man,” and ‘Von Bulow’ answers: “You have no idea”.

That’s kind of how deviously twisted Charles Johnson is compared to how you guys portray him. You have no idea.

I know Johnson personally, IRL. I know a girl who dated him for a long period of time. I have to watch what I write or he’ll figure out who I am, and as I’m about to tell you, that would be very bad for me if he did. Read on to find out why.

First off, I only know this stuff, not because I know him or know his ex, or know some of his personal friends -he doesn’t have many, and he doesn’t keep in contact with those he has, he’s pretty much a hermit who spends more hours than you can imagine on the internet. I’ll tell how I know this stuff in a few. But suffice to say, he is psychotically addicted to the ‘net. In the rare occasions his ‘net goes down, he must go somewhere with free wi-fi, because he as as addicted as a person can be. He has 2 main occupations on the ‘net.

One is online gaming, and he’s again, as addicted as you can be. Why, with his ‘great talent’ for programming doesn’t he have a job doing it? Because he’s mentally and even physically incapable of keeping a job, because he is so addicted to gaming, and his 2nd passion, his online persona. He once spent 72 online gaming (that I know about specifically, he probably has many times) over a holiday weekend when many other gamers were online because of a 3 day holiday, and he ate, slept and even (ugh) pissed at the computer, yes, in a plastic bottle so he wouldn’t have to get up to go to the bathroom, with a cooler for drinks. This is just an example of how addicted to gaming he is. It consumes him, and he plays obsessively, and is obsessively concerned about his gaming ‘rep’ and handle on any game he plays. Which brings us to his second obsession: his name online.

You have only scratched the surface of his sock-puppets and online devious behavior, which is truly the behavior of a psychopath. He maintains dozens and dozens of online personalities, some of which he has cultivated for YEARS: he posts as them on his site, he joined forums as them and keeps up regular posting as many different people, he comments on many sites (masking his IP, he’s that smart, anyway) and even carries on conversations and fake flame wars or debates with his own socks: then, when it suits his purpose, he can have an ‘army’ of seemingly diverse and unrelated people come to his defense or the defense of a subject which he supports when he really wants to. And it seems like “wow, even LiberalTard335 and HardCoreTPartyNut agree with him, CJ must be right!”.

He creates profiles, photos, backstory, history, etc. for these socks, on many sites, so they really seem like real people. And he’s been doing this for years, so some of them seem like very established and real live people, not some sock he registered right before he needed it. Because he knew long ago he _would_ need them, and he’s carefully used them for a long time. He never “burns” an alter.

How do I know this? Not because I know him personally, or some of his friends, or even someone who was intimate with him. He doesn’t admit or let any of this out of the bag. All this is under deep cover, because he’s used these socks ON his friends and an women he’s dated or stalked online. He has used them in the guise of “friends” to sing his praises to a woman, or to pull some kind of cruel trap on a friend. So no one must know he’s capable of this kind of deviousness. But, it gets out.

When you play this game, you get very good at lying, but you do slip up. Socks reveal info only Johnson would know, or phrase things in a way CJ has IRL, there are many small ‘tells’ that, taken together by a group of people who already know the guy is a bit unhinged, well, we figure it out. Plus, I’m not going to say who, but someone close to him DID get on one of his private computers (he has a bank of them on his workspace, so he can be logged in as many people at once, seemingly posting simultaneously, without logging on and off) and on a simple pulldown login saw the names of DOZENS of well-known posters on LGF: “what is this? are you all these people” “no” he lies “I had to log in as them to fix problems with their accounts. Yeah, right.

And he posts incessantly. He likes to pretend he’s “offline” and post only as socks to see what people are up to. He stalks sites like yours, many such, and posts. He posts contrary to what you would think CJ would post, to keep up the charade, but gets in subversive comments and disinformation.

And he has a long and very vengeful memory. He obsessively googles himself, but he doesn’t want old or outdated hits, he googles with the date to get the new stuff. Then, he comments, trolls, attacks, whatever, with his fake army. And that’s only the beginning.

If you are one of those naive people who leaves his real name, phone, address on his WHOIS for your site, he’ll look them up. He’ll use PeopleSearch or some other site to find you IRL, where you work, where you live. He has, in the past, anonymously emailed or even called places of business where his enemies work and informed on their online activities, perhaps they used bad language or attacked someone in a flame war, or posted an online rant. To a person who is not part of the site, this stuff looks very bad indeed, and can, and has, gotten people fired, at very least caused them difficulty. He has frightened people’s loved ones, hacked emails, spoofed screennames, any number of anarchaic and sinister hate methods to get to people who attack him online.

He oftens waits a long time to do this dirty work so his hand won’t be immediately suspected, never proven.

He notifies WordPress or Blogger to try to get sites taken down. He’ll contact owners of an image a blogger might have used, trying to get him DMCA’ed. He’ll do anything he can to sabotage them and kill their blog.

That’s why it’s so odd he has these vociferous groupies who seem to defend him to the death: most, if not ALL of them are actually him, because really, who else would give a crap? And, those Twitter accounts are surely his, because he had dozens of Digg accounts to spam his blog, as well as many other “digg” type accounts which spread blog post links, trying to drum up attention for his blog. He did, for a long time, harbor the idea he might get hired to write, or even get regular gigs on cable news as a commentator. It never happened, and that is one reason, besides his anger at being rejected, he hates Pam Geller so much: she’s actually doing it, and it really galls him to see people he “mentored” to be surpassing him. Same with Zombie and others. CJ has no talents to sell, he’s always depended on the talents of others, and once they decide to quit subsidizing him and go off on their own and get popular, he denounces them as traitors.

Which brings up another point: where he gets his money. He has no regular job, he couldn’t have one, because he has no time for one. He’s online nearly 24/7. If he’s awake, he’s online. All that crap about all the biking his does: just that, crap. He rarely leaves his computer room, period. Maybe he takes a 30 min bikeride and takes 100 photos and then posts them over a few months and claims he took 100 rides: bull. If he’s awake, he’s online in front of a monitor.

The blog barely stays online due to server costs, and he gets zilch from ads, calendars, cook books, tshirts or any of that other crap. He’s lost his ass on every enterprise like that he’s ever tried. Most of his friends figure he does have some savings from when he DID work, and he must be getting subsidized by his parents for things like rent and his bills. He lives very simply, which is easy when you sit on your ass in front of a computer 24/7, so his costs are rent, electricity, phone/internet and the cost of his blog (yes, it costs money to run, it does not make money, not a penny) and food. He doesn’t own a car, which he acts like he’s proud of, but he can’t afford one. I don’t think he has a driver’s license. He’s been addicted like this since around 2002, when he lost his last real job due to gaming addiction, and in fact he lived with his parents for a bit when he also lost his place of residence and couldn’t pay his bills, but it’s surmised (but not known for sure) that they set him up in a place to live to get him out of their house, and have paid his bills since.

His “programming” skillz are completely self-taught, because he spends so much time just messing around with his site and always has, but they are not applicable in the most part to a real-world job, not that he would be able to function at one anyway.

There are also rumors and stories about his online “romances” and manipulation of women and girls with his internet tricks, as well as weird porn proclivities, but I don’t know about this stuff first hand, people who know him online and IRL have caught him in some slips, or found him here and there online and with little “tells” have figured out it’s him, but as I’ve said, he keeps this stuff very much to himself in his own little twisted head. He doesn’t let friends, family, girlfriends or anyone else know about his machinations because if they did, they’d see just how insane he is, and man, he IS insane. He’s crazy and obsessed enough that if there was a way to kill someone over the ‘net and not be caught, he’d have done it by now. Some of us have witnessed the insane rage and rants he’s let go with in his weaker moments about things people have said about him.

You think he doesn’t read your blog? He reads every word, every comment. He’ll google and do whatever else to try to figure out who every commenter is, and expose them if he can. He lives in paranoia that some of his site’s members go on other sites and trash him, and one of his main occupations is trying to expose them so he can ban then. That’s all those “unexplained” bannings. He’s caught them somewhere else, or thinks he has. He’s big on “hunches” about who someone is, if they use a vocabulary word that’s odd and he sees it somewhere else, or a link, or a thought matches, he uses his “deduction” to bust them. That’s again, why people get banned and can’t figure out why the hell they were banned. Sherlock Holmes either figured you out, or delusionally thought he did.

Everyone should also be on notice: he’ll damage you IRL if he can: he’ll expose home addresses, real names, try to googlebomb your real name to something terrible if he can, post as you on illegal or unsavory sites, then “expose” you as being a member (when it’s really him) either anonymously or openly on his site, depending on his needs.

I’ve had to leave out a great deal because if I told more details, he’d quickly figure out who I am, and he may anyway. And to be honest, he scares me, I’ll admit it. If you’re smart, he’ll scare you too. He’s not brave, and he’s not really that smart, but he’s devious beyond belief, and evil, and a pathological liar, and NOTHING is beyond him for terrible deeds in service of defending CJ.

I was driven to post this because of the guy who wrote the Twitter post, giving CJ the benefit of the doubt: DON’T. It’s him. Twitter is the tip of the iceberg. He makes sock puppets for forums, other blog comments, Digg, Facebook, Myspace, Photobucket, Blogger, WordPress, YouTube the list goes on and on and on. And he spends his time manipulating these sockpuppet “alters”, using them for his various needs, like moving chess pieces around on a chess board: he always has a number of scams, flamewars, attacks as well as many “long games” he’s playing, and he never stops. He doesn’t read leftist blogs, you notice he never links them. He spends his time attacking conservative blogs and baiting them to respond, so he can get mentioned and noticed. He both craves the attention, then reacts hysterically to it, attacking his attackers with hilariously out-of-proportion means.

Well, that’s about all I have to say. Just want you to realize, as much as you post and find out about Charles Johnson, and you think you have his twisted weirdness pretty much pegged, and it’s grotesque and insane as far as you know already, but there is much, much more, beyond your wildest imaginings. Always remember: “You have no idea”.


You be the judge to the validity of this comment!

Daedalus Update:

After checking the IP and seeing everyone’s comments, I believe this “inside knowledge” to be fake. Does Charles have multiple socks, plays video games for hours, has women issues and spies on posters? Absolutely, but this is public knowledge. Thanks to everyone for voicing your opinion.

Thanks everyone for their input in this.

Daedalus Update II:

To be fair babygiraffes answers some of our observations.

 


280 Comments on “You be the Judge”

  1. sacred ham says:

    It’s always been obvious to me (and most people) that Chuck mainly interacts with his minions via socks, because it makes no sense that someone who’s so obsessive about their own site would go for such long periods of time without commenting, or making no more than one-line comments.

    btw, whatever became of BB’s big expo-zay of Chuck?

  2. doriangrey1 says:

    Wow, that sooo doesn’t surprise me even in the slightest.

  3. Resident Breeder says:

    Not surprised. For the longest time I suspected Obdicut was Charles’ sock. That or someone who can’t keep his stories straight. I am quite sure I remember Obdicut mentioning that he didn’t drive but then in another post talking about his hybrid car. I almost mentioned something at the time but decided it wasn’t worth the fight or digging up the previous post because maybe I misremembered. Memory issues sometimes happen with breeders 😉

  4. garycooper says:

    Well, that proves once and for all that my longtime-suspicion about him being Lewd-Thing is true. You see, he slipped up the day he was getting his ass handed to him on AGW by yours truly, while he was posting as LVQ. Here’s Lewds daring me to say one more thing, which of course I did, and here’s me banned two seconds later, and suddenly the Fatass is jumping in with comments in support of Lewds and insulting my character and intelligence. Busted.

    Everything about this expose rings true, and jibes with things I’ve observed over the past ten years or so. I would love to see the list of his past and current socks at LGF. I think I know the one(s) who post here, but that’s a whole other can of worms. 😉

    We see you, Chunky.

    • Daedalus says:

      he’s not Ludwig. I know who Luddy is.

      • Doppelganger says:

        is he a real scientist?

      • garycooper says:

        Yeah, but for all I know, you are Luddy. 😉

      • garycooper says:

        …and Chunky, too! 😆

      • Walter von Dichische says:

        We are all Luddy… 😈

      • Bagua says:

        He has the credentials, but he doesn’t write about physical science, as is obvious from his LGF rants.

        It is all theoretical stuff about the internet and various networks. With lots of stuff about fractals, and random walks, which are things he talked a lot about on LGF.

        Not a single paper on Climate Change or any related topic. He is fraudulently misrepresenting his field.

        He actually posted it was not his field on LGF a couple years back, but that he was “reading up on it.”

        Now he poses as a Climate Scientist, he’s a big phony.

      • Walter von Dichische says:

        He actually talked about heterogeneous catalysis?

  5. sacred ham says:

    One thing that doesn’t ring true in this is the following:

    I have to watch what I write or he’ll figure out who I am, and as I’m about to tell you, that would be very bad for me if he did.

    […]

    he IS insane. He’s crazy and obsessed enough that if there was a way to kill someone over the ‘net and not be caught, he’d have done it by now.

    […]

    if I told more details, he’d quickly figure out who I am, and he may anyway

    That doesn’t seem believable. First it’s really important that Chuck not know who this person is, because Chuck is someone who is insane and might even kill. Then near the end, they say that Chuck may figure out who they are anyway. So we’re supposed to believe that they’re risking God-knows-what retribution from Chuck, because they wanted to let people know the truth about the Twitter story? They’ve kept quiet all this time, and this is what makes them poke their head out, risking the Wrath of Chuck? Hmm.

    • Walter von Dichische says:

      This is also bunkum:

      He doesn’t read leftist blogs, you notice he never links them.

      It’s pretty obvious that at least half of his material comes directly from mediamatters, quirks and all.

      • sacred ham says:

        And he does link to Kos, TPM, MM, etc, in the left sidebar, just not from within posts for the most part.

      • guy says:

        i didn’t read that as he never consults lefty sites.

        it is a fact that the ratio of posts about what he’s discovered over at some rightwing blog (sometimes obscure rightwing blogs) to stories from the left of the blog-o-sphere is about 5:1.

        qualitatively, his posts about the right-o-sphere demonstrate an obsessive attention to the minutia of what is happening on the conservative blogs. in contrast, his posts which reference lefty blogs mainly consist of above-the-fold, top-of-the-feed stuff from sites like tpm and mediamatters which in turn are mainly “oppo” blogs which dig up dirt about the right. either that or they are posts which he’s lifted from a minion’s pages post.

        which is, as you recall, pretty much the way it was in the past; original content being the fruit of an obsessive attention to the “enemy’s” media and all actual news of significance lifted from a minion, who get’s an abbreviated “h/t” for their trouble.

  6. Walter von Dichische says:

    There are some details in there that don’t smell right. But the “larger truth” can still be true.

  7. Guggi says:

    The whole story stinks with claims contradicting other claims. Take alone the claim with the “many computers he is running at the same time”. Bullsh*t, look at his workspace there isn’t even the place for one more computer.

    • Resident Breeder says:

      You can use one monitor for several computers. I know I can see all 6 of our computers on once screen if I want. They aren’t all even in the same room.

      • Walter von Dichische says:

        More likely the other way around. Multiple monitors on one computer. But you can have eleventy tabs open with a different login in each. So the description isn’t accurate, but may be this person’s misinterpretation of seeing three of four monitors.

      • Guggi says:

        Remember what the NYT wrote about his laughable small workspace with one laptop and a screen.

        And how can one be so obsessed with gaming (72 games one long weekend) that he even doesn’t use the toilett but at the same time running a blog and using socks and creating accounts and virtual lifes and, and, and…

        The whole story is bullsh*t. If CJ really were addicted to gaming then he weren’t able to run the blog. No one can be addicted to both time consuming activities.

        The headline says “you decide” and I say bullsh*t.

      • I gotta call Bull Shit on this one too. Bear in mind that at about 46 hours without sleep, and 99.9% of the population begins to enter a REM cycle involuntarily. The only people able to stay awake for 72 hours have either been trained to do so by the military or are on drugs suck as speed or coke. I also have problems seeing Charlie as some sort of Dr, Evil super genius. Let’s also not forget that as much as people don’t wish to admit this, he is a professional musician of some renound. He has credits on albums published by Stanley Clarke and Al Jarreau at least. That right there would bring in tidy sums of money from royalties still.

    • Daedalus says:

      He stomach can fit another computer!

      😆

    • TT says:

      It matches up with the description of his workspace in the NY Times piece…

  8. Nodrog says:

    It’s perhaps convenient that “babygiraffes” can’t give us any specific examples of Charles Johnson’s perfidy because it would betray who he (or she) is. Without such corroboration, I can’t believe the story told.

    Charles Johnson is enough of a jerk already without going to this level of jerkiness.

    BTW, speaking of paranoia, at one point Ed the Weatherman and the Gulf Coast (now Grouchy Conservative) pundits accused ME of being a Charles Johnson sockpuppet!

    • Daedalus says:

      I don’t know if all this is true, like pissing in a cup or a porn addiction. However, I think elements of this is true. Like CJ having multiple socks spying on posters.

      There’s some truth, but it’s probably embelished.

      • guy says:

        i believe the pissing in a cup part. i’ve known agoraphobes. except i bet it’s an empty arizona iced tea can.

    • Juan Epstein says:

      They didn’t mean on the internet.

      They meant it literally.

    • Walter von Dichische says:

      Well, are you?

    • Arachne says:

      I agree with you on this. The lack of specifics is throwing up some serious red flags for me.

  9. guy says:

    i gotta say, this really fits right into my own profile of charles; everything from the cycling photos as a self-conscious cry of “see?! i do have a life away from the internet” to the way his blogging is more of a means to attract negative attention than one of promoting a coherent viewpoint.

    the only question i would have is whether this is in fact insider knowledge. could just be an ex-lizards read of him dressed up as a revelation, or it could be a charles sock fishing for clicks, as surely many dod’ers will head over there to see what he and his cult has to say about it.

    in the final analysis, there isn’t much of value here. which cult members are socks? that would be a start. proof would make it worth something. i don’t doubt a word of the post, but it’s only what anyone might conclude of charles from a mile a way.

  10. Doppelganger says:

    He’s not going to take this well.

    game on.

  11. Malachi Mulligan says:

    Am I the only one who thinks we’re being played here?

  12. Doppelganger says:

    How do you know this isn’t a sock of charles writing this?

    He needs attention any way he can get it, and the victim bit is one of his schemes?

  13. stonemason says:

    It’s a sock, pushing y’all to buy the story, so that mocking can go on about it somewhere else, either at lfg or in the real world. Too many ‘secrets’, one of the details, that could be corroborated, released couldn’t possibly reveal an identity of the releaser…
    Of course I have been accused of having/being a sock/troll so what is to be believed on the internet?

  14. a-naughty-mouse says:

    To those of you who deny and are trying to play down the Baby Giraffes post…

    According to the post, you are probably Charles.

    I think everyone has to publicly deny they are Charles.

    I will start. I am not Charles. Oh, but that is exactly what you would expect Charles to say….

    Quick… Who wrote little women?

  15. sacred ham says:

    How do I know this? Not because I know him personally, or some of his friends, or even someone who was intimate with him.

    But then they claim to have all kinds of info and clues that only such a person would know. I agree with guy – this sounds more like someone who’s pissed at Chuck making up something plausible but fictitious. And if they were going to do that, they should’ve gone the whole nine and included barnyard animals, a meth lab, and uncredited solos on Vanilla Ice records.

    • Malachi Mulligan says:

      There is nothing in that entire post that someone who’s followed the speculations about Chuck couldn’t make up in five seconds.

    • dwells38 says:

      He said he had to leave a lot out. If he’s a friend of a girlfriend she might’ve unloaded all this on him after things went sour. Or yeah, it could just be Charles playing us which is more likely.

    • little green dildo says:

      sacred ham :

      uncredited solos on Vanilla Ice records.

      LOL

  16. Bagua says:

    Ludwig is not a sock.

    Obdicut is not a sock.

    I can’t think of any, pre-purge lizards who could be socks.

    The whole sock thing sucks.

    But I would believe he has socks on other websites, and multiple twitter and digg socks.

    • Resident Breeder says:

      Ugh. So Obdicut is just a sycophant then.

      OT: What do you think of Torah observant Christians? (No, I am not one but I have a IRL friend that has bought into some “church” that believes this.)

      • Bagua says:

        Obdicut is a sycophant, highly dedicated and loyal.

        Basically an Idiot Savant, with high functioning reading and memorisation skills, and no common sense or ability to look beyond his black and white view of the world.

        Everything, and everyone, must conform. Otherwise they are “weird” and “confusing” and “make no sense” and he has “no idea what they are talking about.”

        Thus he loves conformity, and was a moderator on game-boy sites prior to graduating to LGF. It is the perfect environment for him, where there is a rigid set of rules and morals he can conform to and enforce.

      • Zimriel says:

        Torah-observant Christian because they’ve concluded that the Torah’s laws are generally good and/or harmless cultural practice, or Torah-observant because they don’t hold Jesus as fulfilment of the Law?

        I’m generally in the first camp (to the extent I observe any faith) because of my heritage. Joining the second camp means not accepting Paul… I suppose you can do that and still be Christian (like Saint James), but it’s not easy to defend.

      • Resident Breeder says:

        Torah observant because they deny the traditions and doctrines of Christianity as “man made” and only follow the Bible. According to them, we are obliged to follow the Torah because the new covenant with Jesus does not release us from God’s original covenant with the Jews. Or something along those lines.

    • Crazy Nastyass Honey Chuck says:

      The Weez isn’t a sock. A suck, maybe…

    • garycooper says:

      Can you prove you’re not a sock, Bagua?

  17. Nodrog says:

    Wow, that’s a thought – a Charles sock writes a post about Charles socks!

    Sort of like being a double double agent.

  18. Juan Epstein says:

    Baby Giraffes is Charles?

  19. yankintheeu says:

    For my part, although I object in the strongest way to what CJ writes and does in public, I don’t want anything to do with the personal domain. We all have our demons. There is something wrong in engaging with someone else’s publicly. I also deplore any serious personal claims that are without evidence which could harm someone’s reputation. I’d rethink and remove this piece; it’s just not worth it, even on a ‘freedom of info’ line of thinking. This moves beyond parody and mocking.

    • Malachi Mulligan says:

      Quite concur.

      • Walter von Dichische says:

        I hear what you’re saying but there’s nothing in there that hasn’t been said at least in jest here before, and really nothing that could be called a smoking gun.

        Sit back and watch the crowdsourcing process run its course. I think all will end well.

      • guy says:

        meh. i think that sort of objection falls into the “teh internets is serious business” category.

        the guy is a bully who has revealed people’s irl info maliciously himself.

        to discuss the possibility that he’s a self-obsessed manchild who pisses in empty beverage containers during 72-hour WoW benders isn’t really going to change the rules of the game as he’s established them or change anyone’s opinion of him, much less deprive anyone of life, limb or property

    • sacred ham says:

      Agreed. I think we’ve all figured out that he’s got mental problems, it doesn’t take a secret agent to confirm that, and I sure don’t need or want to know where he takes a leak. The only mystery I’m interested in is why he flip-flopped ideologically.

    • Guggi says:

      Thank you.

  20. Walter von Dichische says:

    The writing style seems kind of iceweaselish to me.

    Going in for the kill?

  21. Walter von Dichische says:

    Admins – some info on Baby Giraffe might be helpful in making up our minds about this. Not asking for an IP, but can someone gives us a city?

    • Daedalus says:

      Tampa via Verizon Fios.

      • Walter von Dichische says:

        Which raises the question: how does this person know Chuck/Chuck’s ex/Chuck’s GF IRL?

      • dwells38 says:

        If he knows him thru his musical career and is another musician he could be anywhere to take a gig. I think because of this where he’s located today is irrelevant. For instance Disneyworld is near Tampa. Disneyworld hires lots of musicians and entertainers.

  22. The Sock Known as William Standish Knowels says:


    Socks within Socks within a Taco Bell

  23. Basement Cat says:

    If you are one of those naive people who leaves his real name, phone, address on his WHOIS for your site, he’ll look them up. He’ll use PeopleSearch or some other site to find you IRL, where you work, where you live. He has, in the past, anonymously emailed or even called places of business where his enemies work and informed on their online activities, perhaps they used bad language or attacked someone in a flame war, or posted an online rant. To a person who is not part of the site, this stuff looks very bad indeed, and can, and has, gotten people fired, at very least caused them difficulty. He has frightened people’s loved ones, hacked emails, spoofed screennames, any number of anarchaic and sinister hate methods to get to people who attack him online.

    He oftens waits a long time to do this dirty work so his hand won’t be immediately suspected, never proven.

    He notifies WordPress or Blogger to try to get sites taken down. He’ll contact owners of an image a blogger might have used, trying to get him DMCA’ed. He’ll do anything he can to sabotage them and kill their blog.

    This part may be true, but then, CJ is hardly alone in this behavior. I would caution anybody who wants to blog without being shut down to lease their own domain name AND hosting space, and to keep all personal information out of public view.

  24. Village Idiot's Apprentice says:

    I’m kinda torn on this one.
    I always distrust Christmas presents that appear to validate my beliefs, yet lack a degree of verifiable specificity.

    Do I believe that Chunk is capable of the actions cited in the post?

    Without a doubt…yes.

    Do I believe that he actually is doing these things?

    Riddle…enigma….some assembly required.

  25. crashsnow says:

    That is fake. Puhleeze. Someone at LGF is pissed off at Charles, but so passive aggressive they have to drag the DoD into it, to fight their battles. I could make up better crap than this with what I know and extrapolate from my time reading that blog. I bet someone who has been put in time out or experienced some other publicly shameful experience on LGF wrote it. That said, I don’t think anyones gambling or porn problem is any of our business. I wish you would leave “real life” out of it. We have enough to laugh about from the internet. Reconsider removing the post.

  26. Bureaucat says:

    Malachi Mulligan :Am I the only one who thinks we’re being played here?

    Nope. This smacks of Kilgores attempt to post racist statements and get others to out themselves as sympathetic.

    I think the real name of this poster is Moby.

  27. OldLineTexan's Sock says:

    Fake.

    Real life is much sicker than this.

    Besides, as a sock, I only care about what happens in cyberspace. Meatspace does not interest me.

  28. Bureaucat says:

    sacred ham :and uncredited solos on Vanilla Ice records.

    Damn – that is a low blow!

  29. Emperor says:

    If half this was true… Woah. All I can say. Even if some of this wasn’t true, this is a huge bombshell.

    At the same time – while some things ring true, others… not so much. The whole having multiple workstations set up..

    The guy saying that he’s afraid that Charles might find out who he is, but that he never leaves the house and everyone knows he’s crazy. Why would he be scared, and if he was scared – why would he do this? Chuck would likely have enough info to identify him, and if not him, certainly the friend who stumbled upon the dozens of usernames saved on his office. Same thing goes for being so addicted to gaming that he didn’t even go to the washroom.

    Very conflicted on this one.

    • Bunk X says:

      I emailed the admins earlier:

      I’m not sure what to make of it. What is the writer’s purpose?

      Assume that it’s true. Why would someone take the time to write and post such a long commentary for all to see, rather than just emailing to one of the admins? Wouldn’t it be very embarrassing to CJ to read it, knowing that it came from one of his “friends?” The writer posted that for exactly that reason, and the sympathy ploy backfires.

      On the other hand, the writer has most of the Chuck memes covered (even refers to him as “CJ”) with no new information. It could be a hoax, or a set up so that when the author announces his fabricated story the lizards can jump up and down claiming they’ve discredited DoD.

      I’m leaning to the latter assumption.

      After some basic snooping, the writer is known elsewhere around the blogosphere under a different nic, and is not directly connected to The Blogmocracy or DoD aside from commenting occasionally, and he’s not a lizard. There is a good probability that he and CJ crossed paths, IMO.

    • Bunk X says:

      And no, it’s not BB.

  30. Juan Epstein says:

    Space Jesus, perhaps?

    • Bagua says:

      Too wordy, and space weirdo is a sycophant.

    • Emperor says:

      I would think that SJ could possibly be one of the socks if this is true. But that’s just my suspicion.

      • Bagua says:

        That I could believe, as space weirdo is not very smart, and just posts short insults, just like Charles.

        He could have been trolling his own “lizard” community via space weirdo for years before he came out fully against them.

  31. yankintheeu says:

    I have to agree with others, too: One gets the intuition that this is someone from Charles’ new circle who has been stung, perhaps disappointed or betrayed in some way. It does not read as if from old guard LGFers, who are amazed by the center-hawk into ideological progressive transformation. Perhaps they do know by having gained confidence of some things CJ uses to attack his foes. But why now only now bring these tactics to light — in a narrative about his personal character? It’s a peculiarly personal attack.

  32. Bagua says:

    It sounds like a jilted lover.

  33. Walter von Dichische says:

    Irish Hose?

  34. Bagua says:

    (he has a bank of them on his workspace, so he can be logged in as many people at once, seemingly posting simultaneously, without logging on and off) and on a simple pulldown login saw the names of DOZENS of well-known posters on LGF: “what is this? are you all these people” “no” he lies “I had to log in as them to fix problems with their accounts. Yeah, right.

    I don’t believe this part at all. Charles has a very shallow personality and very poor debating skills. He never managed more than a comment or two when I slapped him down. He’d slink off, and let his sycophants take over.

    All the well know posters on LGF are smarter than him, and have very distinct personalities. It is beyond Cj’s ability to fake them.

    I could believe one or two socks, but nobody well known.

    • Emperor says:

      The supposed exchange seems more fake to me than anything else. The socks part is one of the things I do believe.

      The poster is concerned about revealing his own identity, but gives this anecdote? If true Charles would definitely identify the person in question.

      As for the socks – I could believe that he has two or three well known socks, but not “dozens”.

    • harlekwin says:

      I agree. I was one of Chuckles hatchet men on infantry matters when posters would overrate the combat capabilities of the opfor. Not gonna go into it but BikeBoy is a small mind who got(briefly) a big stage. due to rathergate IMHO.

      Fell prey to becoming what he beheld.

      Zombie and others were the soul of the ‘site.

  35. crashsnow says:

    Let’s look for clues.

    Written by man or woman?
    Other clues, who knows movies?
    Who uses the phrase, addicted as you can be? This person used it twice.
    They use appropriate punctuation and spelling most of the time.
    What time of the night did this love note get delivered?

    • Walter von Dichische says:

      Sounds like a woman to me, but I can’t say why. Maybe because of “Baby Giraffe”?

    • Bunk X says:

      It showed up 12:54AM EST.

    • Arachne says:

      I have to say, the prose style struck me as feminine. I’d have to categorize that just as a gut reaction to the phrasing. That said, I’m in “agreeance” with those that doubt the credibility of this posting – it has almost a catharcic tone to it, as if the writer is unburdening all the animosity they have for Charles – and as you read it, there is absolutely NO “new” information about Charles with any specifics and I seriously can’t see how anything this writer put forth would lead to exposure of their identity.

      I was also struck by the paragraphs that basically took a “fear the Charles” tone, which seemed odd. We’re grownups here – we can make rational assessments of risks and we’ve had a front-row seat as to what Charles is capable of.

      I’ll vote with the “fake” crowd on this one.

  36. smug boorish person says:

    Too paranoid.

  37. The Sock Known as William Standish Knowels says:

    mean while back at the swamp…

    “20 Charles
    Thu, Mar 24, 2011 1:26:51pm
    1
    down
    up
    report
    re: #9 wrenchwench

    Breitbart has said worse stuff much earlier than today. It was very poor judgment to publish him in the first place.

    He turns into a really creepy, red-faced bully type when pressed on anything. One tactic he uses on Twitter is to retweet negative comments about himself, to get his 30K+ followers to pile on and scream insults at the target. And we’re talking real knuckle-draggers; homophobic, threatening, you name it. Every time Breitbart retweets something of mine I get a couple dozen of these kinds of comments back.

    (Luckily Tweetdeck has its great Global Filter, and those are the last tweets I see from those people. It’s actually useful to bait Breitbart, just to get more idiots for the idiot list.)”

    …making a list and checking it twice…

    • Bureaucat says:

      Gee Charles if you don’t like the smell of the turd stop poking your nose in it.

      How many tweet wars has he started (or tried to start) with Breitbart?

      Its like the bully who cries when someone actually hits back.

      • The Sock Known as William Standish Knowels says:

        “…useful to bait…”

        Stalking and Baiting. Terms used to describe predation.
        Charles? Care to comment?

  38. Walter von Dichische says:

    Another thought just crossed my mind. Somebody else who’s fond of animal nics and practical jokes.

  39. Daedalus says:

    Check the update.

    New thread!

  40. phoenixgirl says:

    i think i know who wrote it….and if i’m correct….it’s all true…but i’ll never tell…..

  41. Emperor says:

    Bagua :
    That I could believe, as space weirdo is not very smart, and just posts short insults, just like Charles.
    He could have been trolling his own “lizard” community via space weirdo for years before he came out fully against them.

    For years SJ was just a bad troll. He posted short, ridiculous, offensive posts on threads. He was obviously trolling and wasn’t trying to be a constructive poster – but he never ever got banned. That’s suspicious to me. Out of the well-known posters at LGF he is definitely the most likely to be a Charles sock. I think I’ve said this before but it’s worth repeating now.

    The only other well known poster that I can think of has already been mentioned here. Obdicut. He’s either a sock or just plain weird / making things up. The whole stories about going to clubs wearing a top hat just don’t fly.

    • Bagua says:

      Obdicut is real, weird, and definitely not a CJ sock.

      It is real because of who he is, a born misfit.

    • guy says:

      even weirder considering that space jesus was the one lizard who rushed to wikipedia to “fix” the lgf article. charles left a comment on his user page there.

      • HolyRomanStuff says:

        Check it again, Obdicut was also there. And at TPM trying to fend off WristAction. Those two are joined at the hip.

    • jd says:

      I refered to an acquaintance I knew whose goal in life was to be a spacejesus and go to other planets and teach english. He was an actual person. That got an oooh out of Charles and the nick appeared in the blog later. I always suspected Charles was the Spacejesus. They have the same thoughts about the south.

      We all know Charles uses socks to ride the blog rails and not be noticed. While at the say time he proclaims its an evil thing for a person to do on his own blog. There is a lot of that at LGF, people lacking some integrity.

  42. guy says:

    ugh. i just had a horrible thought. what if it’s breitbart? the conduit through which this thing came was that post by a twitter guy writing about charles spamming twitter. the ensuing back and forth between the twitterer, charles and gus all happened on twitter and breitbart mainly exercises his hatred of charles through twitter.

    • Bagua says:

      Nah! Breitbart can’t be bothered with Charles, and when he can be, slaps him down on his blog.

      Breitbart is somebody, Charles is nobody, except to us mockateers!

      • guy says:

        breitbart is a more significant media character than many, including charles, but you wouldn’t always know that by the silly slap-fights he picks with people on twitter.

        specifically, i can think of a couple instances where he spent entire afternoons trying to goad charles into a fight.

        btw, something i forgot to add above, if it is breitbart, then the post may yet be authoritative, because they did hang out in the old days. it would make sense that he would post it and not want to be found out.

      • Bagua says:

        Interesting point. I’ve never thought much of Breitbart.

    • Emperor says:

      Not at all possible. This was written by someone who was mad at Charles for some reason. Breitbart (with good reason) views him as a joke.

      Further – coming up with all this info, which (with exceptions) mostly rings true, would take hours to fabricate. Breitbart (who AFAIK was never a LGF member) would have to have done a ton of research. The whole talk about Charles using socks, obsessively looking up himself and ‘enemies’, etc – the things that ring true – Breitbart wouldn’t know that without looking up a ton of information.

      My guess is that it is a LGF commenter angry at Charles for some reason. Either a current or former member. Whose anger started probably in the last 12 months and certainly after Charles’s turn to the left.

      • guy says:

        he gets pretty worked up over someone he considers to be “a joke”.

        like i said, breitbart has known and hung out with charles irl.

    • crashsnow says:

      I think it is interesting that you want to drag Breitbart’s good name into this. That seems slanderous. Stop it.

      • guy says:

        don’t be silly. i don’t have to stop anything.

        i wouldn’t want to give charles ammunition to use against any of his selected enemies, but the more i think of it, the more likely i think it is that breitbart posted this.

    • Emperor says:

      You do raise some good points. I wasn’t aware that Breitbart was an acquaintance of Charles. I don’t think that the twitter posts prove he has a motive. But it is possible. Even if remotely so.

    • dwells38 says:

      Not likely. Breitbart can easily tweak him outright just like he did by referencing this place in a tweet. Way effective and way, way less time and effort than typing all that up.

  43. Speranza says:

    Charles Johnson does have a drivers license. Dennis the Peasant recalls him driving a bet up Hyundai a few years ago. Some of the things that this guy has posted rings true and others do not.

  44. Speranza says:

    This part rings true

    “And he has a long and very vengeful memory. He obsessively googles himself, but he doesn’t want old or outdated hits, he googles with the date to get the new stuff. Then, he comments, trolls, attacks, whatever, with his fake army. And that’s only the beginning.”

    • Walter von Dichische says:

      Is googling yourself the internet version of looking in the mirror, and asking “mirror, mirror on the wall…”? Or is it more like doing something else to yourself?

  45. Zimriel says:

    Count me in the “it’s bullshit” camp. It’s a crush who is now lashing out.

    As for the pr0n, I take it this is overstated. Quick, guys, everyone who doesn’t peruse online erotica of some sort – raise your hands. (Um, wash ’em first.)

  46. Speranza says:

    Doppelganger :
    is he a real scientist?

    No he has a job in a college as a physicist.

  47. Speranza says:

    Guggi :
    Remember what the NYT wrote about his laughable small workspace with one laptop and a screen.
    And how can one be so obsessed with gaming (72 games one long weekend) that he even doesn’t use the toilett but at the same time running a blog and using socks and creating accounts and virtual lifes and, and, and…
    The whole story is bullsh*t. If CJ really were addicted to gaming then he weren’t able to run the blog. No one can be addicted to both time consuming activities.
    The headline says “you decide” and I say bullsh*t.

    yeah that part about him urinating in a bucket frankly does not pass the “smell test”. lol

  48. Roger says:

    What Nodickens in Charles Nodickens don’t you understand?

  49. Nodrog says:

    Basement Cat :Are YOU a sock, Nodrog?
    That was my very first thought upon reading this article.

    I am not now, nor have I ever been, an alter ego of Charles “Icarus” Johnson.

  50. crashsnow says:

    I like the way the storyteller uses “you have no idea” to open and close the story. This person writes fan fic. Hopefully not slashy stuff.

  51. Nodrog says:

    Perhaps Dennis the Peasant was a sock of Charles’?

    Perhaps Daedalus/Rodan is Charles’ sock? After all, hysterical lauding of Serbian genocidal monsters certainly doesn’t help the cause of anti-idiotarianism, does it?

    Or perhaps, ChenZhen, the Minotaur himself, is really Charles Johnson with a Minnesota fake IP address?

    • Bagua says:

      Stop trolling Rodan Nodrog. It is pathetic. If you want to debate him, take it to 2.0!

      You are otherwise a good commenter.

    • Coldwarrior as Alcibiates says:

      knock it off asshole.

    • Coldwarrior as Alcibiates says:

      open and public invite for you, nodrog:

      i and the other owners are willing to give you a three hour time slot on blogmocracy if you are willing to write a post and be there to defend and answer questions about your understanding of the situation that was/is in the balkans.

      feel free to email the blog any time when you are ready. i look forward to a spirited debate.

      regards and good day,
      management

    • Rodan says:

      Hey Gordon,
      Stop being a pussy and man up. Come over to the Blogmocracy and debate.

      I smell pussy!

    • Philip_Daniel says:

      Rodan is part Montenegrin.

      Hope that answers your questions…

  52. Speranza says:

    crashsnow :
    I like the way the storyteller uses “you have no idea” to open and close the story. This person writes fan fic. Hopefully not slashy stuff.

    Yeah it reads like one of those idiotic chain mails I get form people telling me that Bill Gates is ready to share his “fortune” if I forward the email to a couple of hundred people I know. Baby Giraffe gives out way too much “information”.

  53. Bunk X says:

    Walter von Dichische :
    How did you ID the writer?

    Secret.

    crashsnow :
    You have a firm ID of the author? Will it be made public? If not, can you tell us at table9? Bunk, I really want to know now!
    Yes. No. No. Sorry.

    • crashsnow says:

      Okay. How many people other know? Eventually someone always talks. Lol

    • Bagua says:

      Will you confirm it with Bagua in strict confidence?

      • Bunk X says:

        No. The author appears to be a good person and deserves anonymity.

      • Coldwarrior as Alcibiates says:

        why not everyone mail it to the blog…i’ll check and delete the email.

        then i can give a generic yes/no if there is a match and neither side will know what the other guessed

      • Bagua says:

        I don’t mean to out the author, rather, I could rule out the folks I know if you suspect one of them.

        But I take it you believe the post is accurate?

      • Bunk X says:

        I have no way of knowing if the content is accurate.

  54. beed says:

    Beed’s credibility meter says 3/100. But it has been out of alignment on previous occations.

  55. crashsnow says:

    I think the spam filter is on to me, again.

  56. snowcrash says:

    I will try the Colonels original recipe now.

  57. Bureaucat says:

    Dan Rather’s Revenge!

  58. Walter von Dichische says:

    The blog barely stays online due to server costs, and he gets zilch from ads, calendars, cook books, tshirts or any of that other crap. He’s lost his ass on every enterprise like that he’s ever tried. Most of his friends figure he does have some savings from when he DID work, and he must be getting subsidized by his parents for things like rent and his bills.

    This person isn’t very aware of the situation, is (s)he?

  59. Grimcargo says:

    That letter is bait and pure bullshit.

  60. Keeper of the Books says:

    This is crap. Someone is jerking on DOD’s balls. Most of the “people” referenced the post are real, not socks. See my screen name? I know better.

  61. Voltaires Crack says:

    If one had all the linguistic dexterity required to do everything claimed in the post, why would one (with no small ego), choose such a rhetorically disabled persona to wear as one’s primary world-facing fig leaf?

    BS detector is firing.

  62. nils says:

    Update:

    96 Charles
    Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:39:38pm 0
    Uh oh, looks like Breitbart’s teensy ego is damaged again. He’s linking to the stalker blog on Twitter. Isn’t he clever?

  63. Voltaires Crack says:

    According to Yertle, Breitbart has linked over here. Get ready for the Bartalanche.

  64. Speranza says:

    Arachne :
    Didn’t Charles’ lose his mother early last year?

    Yes she died (tragically) from cancer I think in late 2009. This letter is pure bullshit.

  65. Persephonexoxo says:

    I think someone is trying to play the players here.

  66. Bagua says:

    I’ve inquired into this “letter” with knowledgeable sources and it is confirmed to be utter BS.

    We are being pawned.

    • poteen says:

      Prolly Charlie himself.
      Not pwned, entertained.

    • calo says:

      So we have two divergent opinions here from Bunk and Bagua on the validity of that letter. What’s a girl to believe?

      • Bunk X says:

        I never claimed that the information on babygiraffes post was valid. See my 4:26PM (#95) above. Daedalus updated the thread, too.

        Made for a fun discussion, though.

      • Bagua says:

        Right, Bunk never said it was valid, only that he might know who the writer was.

      • calo says:

        Bunk X :
        No. The author appears to be a good person and deserves anonymity.

        I stand corrected.

    • Walter von Dichische says:

      The part about pissing in bottles was prolly right, though.

    • garycooper says:

      You have a lot of inside knowledge from knowledgeable friends, and you know who all the real people are behind their online personas. However, you cannot disclose any of this information, because that would be wrong. It’s okay for you and your friends to know and talk about, but it’s not for the peasantry at DoD. We can’t handle the truth.

      And Daedalus knows who Luddy is, and that is also a secret. I guess what I’m saying is, goodbye. Chunky’s a sad case, but I’m coming to believe the stalking of Chunky is just as bad, and it’s rife with misinformation.

      Have fun with it, kids! 🙂

      • Bagua says:

        garycooper :
        You have a lot of inside knowledge from knowledgeable friends, and you know who all the real people are behind their online personas. However, you cannot disclose any of this information, because that would be wrong. It’s okay for you and your friends to know and talk about, but it’s not for the peasantry at DoD. We can’t handle the truth.
        And Daedalus knows who Luddy is, and that is also a secret. I guess what I’m saying is, goodbye. Chunky’s a sad case, but I’m coming to believe the stalking of Chunky is just as bad, and it’s rife with misinformation.
        Have fun with it, kids!

        No mate, don’t leave. I for one value your comments and enjoy your participation.

        I do have a lot of inside information, but I don’t know who “all the real people are behind their online personas.” Just the ones I do know. That they either were, or are, significant “lizards” is just the cross I bear.

        I do know who Luddy is, but via different sources from Daedalus. I choose not to “out” peoples real identities because that could harm them in real life. Not to mention spoil our fun.

        I also got copied several secretive email exchanges, from people that felt betrayed by either the iceSleazle or Charles. Again, just how it went down. My nic was often blue and many people have my email address, I’ve posted it here as well several times.

        But when people ask me to withhold certain facts, I just respect their wishes, though I have slipped up at times. I also see no point in posting real names, when it is the anonymous nics that we are mocking.

    • Bagua says:

      Note: The only part I confirmed was “utter BS” was the bit about the dozens of well known lizards being socks. I shouldn’t have stated my comment as though I confirmed the entire letter was BS. 😳

      • garycooper says:

        The shift of this board’s major focus from laughing at the demise of the Fat Man, to this “Who Am I?” sort of parlor game, leaves me cold and unamused. Where is the schadenfreude in this new tack? There isn’t any, for me. For you insiders who know the true identities of Secret Squirrel and Schrodinger’s Cat, there’s probably a lot.

        Aside from that, lately I’ve been getting the feeling that pounding on Chunky is like beating a bag of wet sand with a stick. Not that such activity can’t be healthful on its own merits, but I’ve been working hard on a different plan of personal improvement.

        I’ll check in occasionally to see what’s up here, but to quote the Great Dubya, “Mission Accomplished.” 🙂

      • nils says:

        (@garycooper)

        This is all I ever knew about any of it, fwiw.

  67. Briareus says:

    The post has been reinstated without editing on the original thread.

  68. The Osprey says:

    Some thoughts:

    Sigh.
    I’ve hesitated a long time writing this post, for reasons which will become apparent when you read it.

    This is either a chick, a guy trying to be a chick, or a very “emo” guy.

    But suffice to say, he is psychotically addicted to the ‘net. In the rare occasions his ‘net goes down, he must go somewhere with free wi-fi, because he as as addicted as a person can be.

    Check any Starbucks within a 10 minute bicycle ride’s radius of the “gated compound”…or follow the Cheeto crumb trail.

    One is online gaming, and he’s again, as addicted as you can be…It consumes him, and he plays obsessively, and is obsessively concerned about his gaming ‘rep’ and handle on any game he plays…

    This explains why so many of the new lizards are 20 something gamer lamers like Obdicut, JamesFireCat, DarkunderscoreFalcon and so forth…

    He obsessively googles himself…

    With the right or left hand?

    Which brings up another point: where he gets his money. He has no regular job, he couldn’t have one, because he has no time for one. He’s online nearly 24/7. If he’s awake, he’s online.

    If this person truly knows Chuckles, it’s someone he first met online via blogging or gaming, and is not a musician associate or she/he would likely know that he’d be collecting residuals from his recording career

    He’s been addicted like this since around 2002, when he lost his last real job due to gaming addiction, and in fact he lived with his parents for a bit when he also lost his place of residence and couldn’t pay his bills, but it’s surmised (but not known for sure) that they set him up in a place to live to get him out of their house, and have paid his bills since.

    Some of this makes sense…back in the early days of LGF, after 9-11 but before Rathergate, Chuckles used to infer that he lived in Rancho Palos Verdes, a rather ritzy are for a blogger/retired session musician, but then somewhere along the time of Rathergate he moved to Culver City/Santa Monica area. That little bungalow in Culver City is hardly a swank “gated community”.

    He’s crazy and obsessed enough that if there was a way to kill someone over the ‘net and not be caught, he’d have done it by now. Some of us have witnessed the insane rage and rants he’s let go with in his weaker moments about things people have said about him.

    I can see Chuckles in this mode as the atheist/proggie equivalent of Islamic Rage Boy.

  69. Princess Natasha says:

    Heh… Someone tried to pull the “fake, but accurate” trick. LOL.

  70. babygiraffes says:

    As I said, if you read, some of this I (and other acquaintances of CJ) are just guessing about- hell, what do you know for sure about your own friends? I admit I wasn’t and am not that close to him. I’m repeating, as I admitted, every rumor, 2nd hand story and observed behavior from a group of people I know who know CJ IRL. A lot of this he doesn’t bother to hide, a lot of it he attempts to, but it gets out.

    Is some of this not true? Probably, a lot of it is gossip. But I think the broad picture is honest.

    About checking my IP to figure out who I am, I’m not that dumb :p
    This is run through a tunnel using a public IP.
    I’m in California right now, but I don’t live here.
    Sometimes I’m in Florida and sometimes in the MidWest, I travel a lot in my job. I have blogger friends in several states, I’m staying with one now.

    That’s about all I can say. Take my post for what it’s worth, but don’t put words in my mouth. I qualify nearly every assertion with the caveat that “we guess, we heard, we think”. Yes, we talk about him. This is a guy who I would not be surprised if he went off the deep end, and then when CNN interviewed his friends we’d say “yes, this was one weird, twisted, obsessed individual who took things very hard and reacted in psychopathic and evil ways, I’m not surprised he went off the deep end and…

    I’m not going to answer every challenge in the comments above. Using the NYT to rebut me is pretty laughable if you really think they are a reliable authority on reporting accurately :p

  71. poteen says:

    As I see it, Baby Giraffes has spun a compelling tale based on things that we here know, things that would logically follow and things that plausibly may be. The only suspect part of the composition is the part where there a fear of what Charlie Johnson will find out or do. Who’s afraid of Charlie? Jeez!
    As for whether to post it;
    Charlie describes all here as stalkers to racists and everything in between.
    Post and keep laughing. 🙂

    “When the legend becomes fact, print the legend. ”
    –The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance–

    Charlie describes all here as stalkers to racists and everything in between.

    • Daedalus says:

      We are Nazis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      😆

      • poteen says:

        Riiiight!

        I’m not afraid of Charlie. Are you afraid of Charlie? Is anyone afraid of Charlie?
        “Orange Whip? Orange Whip? 2 Orange Whips.”
        — Blues Brothers —

  72. babygiraffes says:

    I doubt it. I use a tunnel to reroute my IP through a proxy. Not that I think you’d do anything with my IP, but the one you see on here is not the one associated with this particular computer, it’s a cloaked proxy which shows whatever state or location the proxy server goes through. I am doubly careful because this is not my house and I don’t want to have CJ after the person I’m currently staying with. I’m not afraid to say what state I’m in, and I’m in CA, and if your IP sniffer says anything else you are just getting the Proxy IP, not mine.

    • Bunk X says:

      Please don’t be paranoid. Your original post was very unusual even for this blog. You can clear the air by explaining how you know all that you have described. Does the number 1059 mean anything to you? Suggest you email one of the admins here rather than post it on the blog.

    • Macker says:

      Доверие, но проверяй!

    • Bagua says:

      The part I call BS on is that “DOZENS of well-known posters on LGF:” are CJ socks. Just because I know many of them. However, if this was an observation from before my time when there were thousands of active commenters, then it could be accurate, but dated.

      Feel free to email me bagua1@yahoo.com if I have misjudged you.

  73. poteen says:

    ooops

  74. jd says:

    What online game? What is the nic?

  75. dwells38 says:

    I would guess a musician acquaintance of Charles. Hence the travel and staying on at friends houses. Either traveling to take gigs or located somewhere remote for a gig and staying at friends houses to come back and visit to keep costs low. I have a friend like that myself who comes to stay every few years for a few days(he plays in Rekjavik Symphony in Iceland). That part is plausible. Very few pro musicians other than university teachers and major orchestral players get to live comfortably in one city for long periods of time. Most, even really good ones have to travel to keep a good steady income. Especially those not integral to a band (non-rhythm section players) who can’t count on lots of pick-up work.

  76. Food Lion says:

    Fake but accurate!!!!

  77. Doppelganger says:

    garycooper :The shift of this board’s major focus from laughing at the demise of the Fat Man, to this “Who Am I?” sort of parlor game, leaves me cold and unamused. Where is the schadenfreude in this new tack? There isn’t any, for me. For you insiders who know the true identities of Secret Squirrel and Schrodinger’s Cat, there’s probably a lot.
    Aside from that, lately I’ve been getting the feeling that pounding on Chunky is like beating a bag of wet sand with a stick. Not that such activity can’t be healthful on its own merits, but I’ve been working hard on a different plan of personal improvement.
    I’ll check in occasionally to see what’s up here, but to quote the Great Dubya, “Mission Accomplished.”

    stick around Dude. I like your comments

    • garycooper says:

      Thanks, dude…I guess I am sticking around, by the looks of it. 😉

      Train-wrecks are such irresistable eye-candy, after all. And LGF is still an amazing train-wreck, with smoking-wreckage, people running wildly in different directions, some mangled corpses here and there…and Professor Lewd-Wank Von Gigglestick directing traffic while screaming, “The End Is Nigh, Billions Will Die!”

      Yeah, there’s still a bit of fun to be had.

  78. Aristotle says:

    I do not believe Chuckles has the ability to deviously operate multiple personalities online.

    He just can’t do it. He does have good “detective skillz”, but he is a passive detective – active trolling is beyond anything he’s capable of. I also don’t believe he ever got people fired via teh interwebz. I did, and I know for a fact that sending online cuss exchanges isn’t nearly enough. You have to involve the media to do that, and Chuckles has zero connections in the media.

    Chuckles deserves ridicule, not demonization. He has to improve one trillion fold to be worthy of demonization. No doubt Chuckles would have liked to be an obsessive, determined, devious guy who gets his enemies. But he’s not. He’s a big fat failure in everything he has ever done – be it music, family life, business, sports and the blogging. Chuckles is nothing but a pathetic little man, with much evil intentions but very little results.

  79. babygiraffes says:

    Aristotle, you are naive. If you send someone’s boss a link to a blog post that is a rant, it might be NSFW, it might seem excessive to someone else, it just might paint the business in a bad light, and they can get fired. I probably shouldn’t say this, but the case I know of firsthand is a woman who worked in a public library. He emailed them about some stuff she had said on a blog, things of a sexual nature, it was a frank discussion among adults on a forum, and she said some things she probably wouldn’t want her boss to know about: nothing illegal, but pretty out there. And, some pictures were posted. CJ got into with her on his blog, she had mentioned god-knows-when she posted on this forum, CJ searched her posts, found these pics and these forum posts, and told her boss, and she was fired.

    You can believe it or not, but please don’t tell me things like this aren’t possible. You don’t have to go to the friggin’ media to have people fired, most people aren’t Van Jones for God’s sake, they are just working stiffs, and their bosses are low-level minions trying to do their best to CYA. You are equating regular people with Andrew Breitbart getting Sharrod fired: it’s not the same situation.

    And for the record, as many people referring to me as a man, I’m a girl, FWIW. How many guys would have a handle “babygiraffes” 😛

    • Bagua says:

      Interestingly, the one “lizard” I correspond with who knows Charles Johnson “personally” and has exchanged emails with him over the years, has written me to say that baby giraffes’s post is actually quite accurate.

      He also pointed out that the whole un-Mata Hari thing from the NYT was a complete set up, there was no girlfriend, no fiance. It was just to fool the NYTimes writer who was apparently extremely sceptical. This I had heard before and I believe many people here suspect this as well.

      baby giraffes has recently started blogging as well, definitely not a leftie. Perhaps not happy with the sharp left turn direction LittleGreenFootBalls™?

      I’m not all that interested in Charles Johnson’s personal life, but this bit about stalking and getting people he doesn’t like fired rings true and is on topic for this blog in my opinion.

      • babygiraffes says:

        I could give a flip if LGF went lefty, I was never a member, never commented there once. I despise CJ personally, I’ve always thought he was a jerk and an asshole, and getting “famous” from the Dan Rather thing didn’t shrink his already swollen self-worth any. After that, it took about 5 minutes for him to work it into any conversation with any new acquaintance he made, even if it was in front of people who’d heard it 10000x before, he has no shame.

        The reason I posted is because of the Twitter guy giving him the benefit of the doubt about “not” having made all those alters: he did. Above someone says they don’t believe anyone would manufacture and maintain a bunch of fake identities on the net. Hoo boy, how long you been on the internet, a week? If you have a sock, you’ve already started. Just give it a few more layers and let a good deal of time go by, and it becomes a person, as you add details (lies). CJ does this by design, so he can use them when the time comes.

        Let me give you a very exact example: there was this girl he met. She didn’t like him much, and didn’t return his calls. He found a forum she was on, made an (fake) account, then nonchalantly started commented on her posts, agreeing, commenting on many things they had in common, lo and behold, they lived in the same town! He pretended to be a girl to further lull her. Eventually, after time and much other subjects had been talked about, so as to not arouse suspicion, somehow the subject of LGF came up and turns out this (fake) girl knows CJ! And then ‘she’ starts telling my friend how great CJ is, what a fantastic guy, so kind, thoughtful, generous and (barf) great in bed etc. This goes on for some time, “hey, I talked to CJ and told him I met you online, and he mentioned what a great person he thought you were he was sorry he didn’t get a chance to get to know you better- oh wow, you ought to call him.” etc. etc. etc.

        Finally he fucked up and slipped and made some mistake that gave himself away, but I’ve been told he’s done this many times before. AND he has bombarded girls with MANY alters, all talking about CJ. His main problem is he lays it on too thick sometimes, I guess he can’t help himself. That’s why it’s obvious most (if not all) of his most obsequious and greasy suck-ups on LGF are actually him, no real person would be that slimy.

        God, I do go on in these comments :p

        btw, I read you think you know who I am. You are certainly wrong, I’ve never blogged or even commented much until very very recently (see my blog) so I’ve had zero online presence other than handles on LiveJournal and dumb crap like that, so it’s impossible anyone would “know” me, even in an internet sense. My main motivation is to warn people, they have no idea how devious, evil and psychotic johnson is. I would put NOTHING past him. He’s dangerous, in my opinion.

      • Bagua says:

        I never wrote I think I know who you are.

    • Walter von Dichische says:

      Well, I know a few. Not that there’s anything wrong with that…

  80. Grand Junctionite says:

    I held off judgement of this whole thing for a few days. Haviing read all that has been posted here, I don’t see anything I would put past Mad King Yertle. Everything babygiraffes has posted seems like things CJ would do to me.

    • garycooper says:

      I agree completely. Rings true like Big Ben.

      Creepy as it is, the story of Chunky’s sock-girl pimpin’ for the Chunkmeister, and failing due to stupidity, is too precious! 😆

      Also enjoy the way he tried to use the Dan Rather-thing to score, even though it wasn’t even his scoop. He had a part in the popularization of the scandal, which was really his only claim to fame, as the blog’s popularity was really an accident.

  81. Grand Junctionite says:

    I will also add that CJ displays all the behaviors of an addict. A field that I am knowledgeable about. It may be Video Games. It may be the internet. It may have been some other thing or substance in the past, but he is an addict. I am 90% certain of this.
    His compulsions are to obvious and too strong.

    • Bagua says:

      What bothers me are the multiple sources claiming Charles Johnson stalks and harasses people in their real life occupations. Tracking down anonymous posters and attempting to do them harm by revealing their identities, slandering them, and causing them to lose their jobs and livelihoods.

      We know of numerous examples here on DoD, and more just keep rolling in.

      His personal habits, never leaving his computers and pissing in a bottle to do so, don’t interest me. Whether they are true, or not.

      • Guest Blogger says:

        He did it to me and I had to change my phone number, install a camera outside my house and buy more ammo.

  82. African Moondog says:

    Guest Blogger :
    He did it to me and I had to change my phone number, install a camera outside my house and buy more ammo.

    Huh? Are you being serious?

  83. Konservo says:

    What’s the big deal?

    This is all common knowledge about CJ. All 100% true.

  84. Walter von Dichische says:

    I tell you one thing. If he were in fact a real-life stalker as described, it dovetails with his obsession with others “stalking”, and his paranoia about death threats. Those two pieces fit like a hand in a glove.

  85. Lily says:

    If this is true … it is far, far worse than I thought. And what I thought wasn’t all that great to begin with.

  86. Daedalus says:

    Walter von Dichische :

    He came to Florida? Or did he just threaten to?

    When he outed me, I started getting prank calls and death threats.