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The Zimmerman-Greenwald conspiracy

July 17, 2013

George Zimmerman’s brother Robert has been making the rounds on Cable news shows defending his brother. Since Eric Holder and Barack Obama have both singled out his brother and are looking for a pretext to arrest him, Robert fears for his family’s privacy. He is convinced that the Obama administration is spying on his family via the NSA. This is a reasonable fear to anyone except the Obama Loyalist.

Charles Johnson reacts to Robert Zimmerman’c concern with a strange conspiracy theory. He claims that Robert Zimmerman is trying to get Glenn Greenwald’s fans to support his brother.

Zimmerman-Greenwald

This has to be one of the dumbest conspiracy theories Charles Johnson has concocted. LGF is just a dime store version of Infowars.

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  1. July 17, 2013 at 9:16 pm | #1

    That is a very strange theory.

  2. Shit Bitch Please, Culver City Culver City Culver City, LOL
    July 17, 2013 at 9:23 pm | #2

    This from a man who believes any mention of Culver City is a threat against him.

    Paranoia? Check.
    Conspiracies? Check.

    Has anyone ever seen Icarus and Alex Jones in the same room? It would irresponsible not to ask.

  3. Voltaire’s Crack
    July 17, 2013 at 9:28 pm | #3

    First of all, nooawnts is teh hard for Chuck.

    The actual quote: According to Robert Zimmerman, they “have concerns and always have of having our phones tapped, having our phones listened to by the administration or whomever.”

    Concerns – not convinced, but concerns
    The administration or whomever – someone, maybe the administration, maybe someone else.

    Minor stuff, but still needs to be said to call out snotgut’s mendaciousness.

    Second, is this not a family under stress? That essentially has a bullseye painted on their backs. That has a federal government setting up a snitch network. And same federal government that has helped organize protests against George. With a president that could have conceivably contaminated juries through his personalization of the case.

    Yeah, this is all a big plot to pick off the Greenwald lefties, as if. The dooshyness is boggling. Zimmerman’s concerns are merely manufactured and contrived paranoia towards some strange end. Sympathy, I think it was.

    No chance this family would actually just like the idea of some semblance of safety and security?

    Not according to Chuck, who writes his posts after sniffing, er, consulting Occam’s Magic 8 Ball.

    The coprophagous tail-hider is angling for a position at Racism, Inc.

  4. Shit Bitch Please
    July 17, 2013 at 9:47 pm | #4

    And Icky went with “Greensnow” for the name merge. Lamesville.

    Shoulda gone with Snowald. Originality in coinage matters, and “Greensnow” is overly simplistic, as well as stupid.

    • Because Milyo
      July 17, 2013 at 9:49 pm | #5

      Yellowbottle went for Greensnow. Interesting.

      • Shit Bitch Please
        July 17, 2013 at 9:58 pm | #6

        Just another example of how he tries to be hip but fails miserably. The way you merge names is by taking the front of one name and adding in the end of the other name, which is how we get “Bennifer,” “Brangelina,” “Kimye,” etc. So instead of “Greensnow” it would be “Greenden,” which also sounds lame, and so the better merge is “Snowald.”

    • dwells38
      July 18, 2013 at 8:28 am | #7

      Yeah that “Greensnow” is going to catch on any day now. Right about when LGF reattains the same prominence it had in 2004 and they’re sledding in Hell.

  5. Because Milyo
    July 17, 2013 at 9:57 pm | #8

    The crackpottiest thing about this is the idea that Zimmerman needs to play politics. He’s been acquitted, because there was never any crime.

    Chunk and his crew of geekofascists don’t seem to get the concept of presumption of innocence. Zimmerman doesn’t have to prove anything; the goosestepping Nazis in the DoJ have to prove that there some there there. And there isn’t.

    Fusk the askholes.

  6. Octopus
    July 17, 2013 at 10:13 pm | #9

    The asshole-bomber’s story is up at Rollingstone.com, in case you want to see the stoner-media spin. Here’s a juicy little snippet from “Jahar’s World:”

    “I could never quite get his name – Dokar? Jokar?” says Larry Aaronson, a retired Rindge history teacher (Jahar, he says, eventually told him to call him “Joe”). Aaronson, a longtime friend of the late historian Howard Zinn, also lives on Norfolk Street, down the block from the Tsarnaevs’ home. “I asked him once where he was from, and he said Chechnya. And I’m like, ‘Chechnya? Are you shitting me?’” says Aaronson. “I said, ‘My God, how did you cope with all that stress?’ And he said, ‘Larry, that’s how come we came to America, and how lucky that we came to Cambridge, of all places!’ He just embraced the city, the school and the whole culture – he gratefully took advantage of it. And that’s what endeared me to him: This was the quintessential kid from the war zone, who made total use of everything we offer so that he could remake his life. And he was gorgeous,” he adds.

    Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/jahars-world-20130717#ixzz2ZMK48aVP

    • dwells38
      July 18, 2013 at 8:34 am | #10

      Depressing shit that they had to put the glam picture on the cover. Djokar didn’t even look like those pretty boy pictures by the time of the bombing if you recall. His jaw line had hardened more and he sported a scruffy beard on the security camera vids as he placed the satchel for maximum death and carnage. Those pics are like the 11 yr old Trayvon innocent sweetness pics plastered everywhere. RS have made the complete transition from thoughtful stoners to clueless shallow corporate morons.

      • Arachne
        July 18, 2013 at 9:31 am | #11

        CVS Pharmacy has refused to stock this issue of Rolling Stone in their Boston stores. They should have done it nationally.

  7. Grinning Cat
    July 17, 2013 at 10:43 pm | #12

    I would love to see Charles’ reaction if a tea party politician set up a .gov email dedicated to sharing tips on his behavior, let alone made “wanted dead or alive” posters of him. This is the guy who imagines “stalking” and death threats if people simply make fun of him.

    • Voltaire’s Crack
      July 17, 2013 at 10:46 pm | #13

      Was there a story that he was heading out to buy some Mt. Dew and someone pointed a finger at him and that’s when he became a paranoid shut-in?

      I’m fuzzy on the details.

  8. Voltaire’s Crack
    July 17, 2013 at 10:44 pm | #14

    An alternate juror is being interviewed by Greta. She asked if he is concerned for his safety. He said yes, and that the other jurors are also concerned.

    Clearly, this is another wrinkle in the Greenwald conspiracy being exposed. So many are in on it too.

    If I were Charles, I’d post on it, eat some cheetos, log on to Second Life and give my female yoga instructor avatar a much needed hippity-hop workout.

  9. Octopus
    July 17, 2013 at 10:44 pm | #15

  10. Octopus
    July 17, 2013 at 10:53 pm | #16

    For Senor Testiculo, and Latin lovers everywhere:

  11. ISpeakJive
    July 17, 2013 at 10:55 pm | #17

    Wait. What does having Snowald cultists on Zimmermans side do for Zimmerman? I’m lost.

    • Shit Bitch Please
      July 17, 2013 at 11:13 pm | #18

      Only in Icarus’ warped thinking does this benefit the Zimmermans in any way.

      And +1 for the “Snowald.”

    • Because It’s a Conspiracy
      July 18, 2013 at 12:41 am | #19

      Because Zimmerman’s plotting to run for the senate, and then two years later run for the presidency on the White Hispanic Sieg Heil Party ticket.

      I mean, duh. It’s obvious.

      • Shit Bitch Please
        July 18, 2013 at 1:00 am | #20

        And then the Revenge of the Libertarians will be complete!

    • Voltaire’s Crack
      July 18, 2013 at 1:01 am | #21

      Gohmert?

  12. Octopus
    July 17, 2013 at 11:02 pm | #22

    It’s very confusing, Jive. I can’t begin to follow Fatass’s Byzantine-logic-cathedral in this one. I am escaping in fine music:

  13. swamprat
    July 17, 2013 at 11:25 pm | #23

    A ship is safest in harbor, but that is not what ships are for.

    • Octopus
      July 17, 2013 at 11:34 pm | #24

      TORA! TORA! TORA!

      You think your ships are safe, but they are sitting ducks in a row.

  14. Shit Bitch Please, Culver City Culver City Culver City, LOL
    July 17, 2013 at 11:51 pm | #25

    Grinning Cat :
    I would love to see Charles’ reaction if a tea party politician set up a .gov email dedicated to sharing tips on his behavior, let alone made “wanted dead or alive” posters of him. This is the guy who imagines “stalking” and death threats if people simply make fun of him.

    He is very sensitive to the stalking, yet it seems to have made no impression on him what it would be like to get stalked by an entity with a monopoly on power. There is no “block and report” button for the government if they are peppering you with questions you don’t want to answer. The government isn’t just reading your comments on a blog, they’re reading and listening to everything, and there is no ban stick for that. Icarus abhors this behavior in civilians, but if the government is doing it to its own citizens, well that’s just fine.

    • dwells38
      July 18, 2013 at 8:39 am | #26

      He’s a statist! He and Nancy Grace.

  15. swamprat
    July 17, 2013 at 11:55 pm | #27

    charles sed

    Tea Party: Impregnated Rape Victims Who Abort Should Be Jailed as Long as Their Rapist (VIDEO) lgf.bz/18oRfGJ 56 minutes ago

    IF THE DOCTOR, AND WOMAN CONSPIRE TO BREAK THE LAW UNDER THE PROVISO THAT ROE VS WADE GET REVOKED THEN ALL THREE “ACROSS THE BOARD” SHOULD SERVE EQUAL SENTENCES ACCORDING TO ONE WOMAN IN THE GIVEN VIDEO WHO APPEARS TO BE A BIT SMALL TO BE “THE TEA PARTY”.

    WHAT A DISHONEST, MISCHARACTERIZING,

    YOU…
    YOU…
    YOU YOU YOU!

    I just can’t even.

    • swamprat
      July 18, 2013 at 12:09 am | #28

      FUGELSANG: “Let’s say Roe v. Wade is overturned and abortion becomes illegal. If a woman is raped and she goes to a doctor, and the doctor terminates the pregnancy – Please tell me who deserves the longest jail sentence? The rapist,the doctor or the woman? In order.”

      HUGHES: “Across the board.”

      FUGELSANG: “All three of them?”

      • Octopus
        July 18, 2013 at 12:46 am | #29

        All three must get their just deserts. However, Chunky will order just dessert, as he is too full from scarfing Cheetos all day to eat his broccoli quiche. He’ll have the “Death By Chocolate,” pronto. Chop-chop, Un-Mata Hari!

      • Because Doooooweeee
        July 18, 2013 at 1:01 am | #30

        >>> Let’s say Roe v. Wade is overturned and abortion becomes illegal.

        Wrong. Overturning Roe doesn’t make abortion illegal. Dumfuk.

        Next stupid question?

  16. Whatever man
    July 18, 2013 at 1:16 am | #31

    Charles’ latest hipster term: wharrgarbl

  17. Shit Bitch Please
    July 18, 2013 at 1:30 am | #32

    Icarus is again letting the lizards do all the work. The Zimmerman thread, the Tea Party abortion thread – lizards, not Icky. Maybe he’s trying to look as though he’s not online all day long but shit, bitch, please. That illusion doesn’t hold up if you look at his twitter account. I doubt he could go 24 hours without getting online.

    Or maybe he’s busy with some scientist of love project. Damn, I just grossed myself out.

  18. beeed
    July 18, 2013 at 1:53 am | #33

    I’ve pondered this: In the event of overturning Roe vs Wade rape should still be illegal, I think.

    • Bunk X
      July 18, 2013 at 2:06 am | #34

      Rape is kinda like violent looting, except in reverse. Both should be illegal, but I’m not a proctologist.

      • Bunk X
        July 18, 2013 at 2:10 am | #35

        Yeah. I went there. Trayvon’s girlfriend brought it up. Not me. GZ was a buttpumper according to 16 yo. Rachel Jeantel.

      • beeed
        July 18, 2013 at 2:15 am | #36

        Buttpumper? Is that even a word? Now you’re just combining random letters.

      • Bunk X
        July 18, 2013 at 2:20 am | #37

        Those weren’t her exact words. I think she said GZ was a “Homo” but that word was outlawed in 1976 or so.

      • Arachne
        July 18, 2013 at 9:35 am | #38

        Except that in cases of rape, hospitals offer the abortifacients at the time you are admitted for your examination and the administration of the rape kit.

  19. beeed
    July 18, 2013 at 1:54 am | #39

    Overturning is never carte blanche for rape.

  20. Bunk X
    July 18, 2013 at 2:00 am | #40
    • beeed
      July 18, 2013 at 2:04 am | #41

      We’re having an important conversation on the rightwing’s so-called “right to rape” and you bring in this nonsense?

      • Bunk X
        July 18, 2013 at 2:13 am | #42

        Sure. Why not? The Z’s are coming and they’re mad, they’re vicious, they’re gonna ride your chapparel into the middle of the Mojave and grind you and leave you for the desert tortoises nshit.

      • Bunk X
        July 18, 2013 at 2:16 am | #43

        Those desert tortoises don’t just peck and eat. They do it very slowly.
        Peck swallow………………………..peck swallow……………………peck swallow.
        Horrible slow way to die. I know first hand. I saw it with my own eyes. Nasty.

      • Bunk X
        July 18, 2013 at 2:25 am | #44

        I mean, when desert tortoises attack, you have GOT to have patience.

      • dwells38
        July 18, 2013 at 8:46 am | #45

        I think pecking connotes quickness.

    • dwells38
      July 18, 2013 at 8:43 am | #46

      I think they’re eyeing Poland. Baby steps.

  21. beeed
    July 18, 2013 at 2:24 am | #47

    I will poke the rightwing in the eye with a rightous screwdriver of truth! But first a snack.

    • Bunk X
      July 18, 2013 at 2:32 am | #48

      “I will poke” or “I shall poke”? Do you intend to poke, or are you predicting that you shall poke sometime in the distant future? Rip me a new one, bro.

      • beeed
        July 18, 2013 at 2:38 am | #49

        I will predict that I already have poked the rightwing in the eye with a screwdriver of rightiousnes, but first I shall snack.

      • Bunk X
        July 18, 2013 at 3:26 am | #50

        The rightwing has not responded to the poking. Perhaps you’re mistaking one target for another, missed the hole entirely, or in traditional golfing terms, póg mo thóin.

      • Because Milyo
        July 18, 2013 at 10:05 am | #51

        Most poking is done with a penis penis penis lol.

  22. beeed
    July 18, 2013 at 2:32 am | #52

    Momentarily dirty secrets:
    1. My MIL stole a pair of binoculars last week.
    2. If somebody were to offer me pot right now I might accept.
    3. I told my wife I was watching my nephew but I was looking at the bikini girls in front of him.
    4. MIL chastised FIL for bying exactly the meat she told him to because “he should know better”.
    5. This has been the worst vacation ever.

    • Bunk X
      July 18, 2013 at 2:37 am | #53

      I don’t take vacations for all five reasons you listed, and I’m never buying binoculars again.

      • beeed
        July 18, 2013 at 2:41 am | #54

        “…because they were laying around for two minutes and nobody came for them so I took them because if I leave them there someone might just steal them…”

        IDIOT

      • Bunk X
        July 18, 2013 at 3:02 am | #55

        Nobody really needs binoculars because there’s TV.

      • Because Milyo
        July 18, 2013 at 10:07 am | #56

        NSA has binoculars. The better to see you with, my serf…

  23. Bunk X
    July 18, 2013 at 2:59 am | #57

    Here’s a fun one.
    During the hot summer months, we have ant season. They come in looking for water, then they look for food. Just gotta keep beating ‘em down, sponging the trails and lacing with baits until they go away.

    Bunkarina’s attending college summer school and commuting from home. She took a backpack that had some snacky things in it, and once in the chem lab she realized that she’d brought a little colony of ants with her. She did exactly what I would have done. She opened the bag, set them free and pretended nothing ever happened. Gotta pay attention to the professor.

    There were a LOT of ants.

    A significant number made it onto the transparencies on the overhead projector. Much joy ensued.

    • beeeeeeed
      July 18, 2013 at 3:05 am | #58

      I’ll trade you your daughter for my thieving, lying, angerissue MIL.

      • Bunk X
        July 18, 2013 at 3:19 am | #59

        Honest question for you. Now that the sun’s been up for a couple of days in Norwegia, are the liquor stores restocked, and is there a run on UV-1 Sunscreen products?

        As for my daughter, make me an offer in $US. Krones don’t count.

      • Bunk X
        July 18, 2013 at 3:34 am | #60

        If your MIL is nubile, busty, lithe, nymph-like, with more than one eyebrow and under 45, maybe we can deal after all.

      • Bunk X
        July 18, 2013 at 3:48 am | #61
      • dwells38
        July 18, 2013 at 8:51 am | #62

        Ha. At first I thought this – “angerissue”… was some fancy French word like milyo or j’accuse.

  24. Bunk X
    July 18, 2013 at 3:40 am | #63

    294 NJDhockeyfan Wed, Jul 17, 2013 7:24:02am
    -7
    down
    up
    report
    re: #285 lawhawk

    Price for insurance in NYS expected to drop….
    50%.
    Let that sink in for a moment.
    Individuals seeking to buy individual policies in New York are expecting to see a 50% drop in the premiums.
    How is that possible? Obamacare.

    Someone might want to let the unions know about that. They are not happy right now.

    Downdings for truth…

    • Arachne
      July 18, 2013 at 9:43 am | #64

      So it drops in New York and nowhere else? I call BS.

      • Because Milyo
        July 18, 2013 at 10:10 am | #65

        That’s a projected drop from a think tank. Kind of like those projected temperature increases and sea level rises over the past 15 years. Manhattan’s under water, right?

  25. Bunk X
    July 18, 2013 at 4:32 am | #66
    • The Osprey
      July 18, 2013 at 10:50 am | #67

      Does Eric Idle even know who Charles Johnson is?

      I’d like to have him on the podcast to ask him when he and the Pythons are going to man up and do a “Monty Python’s Life of Mohammed” movie or if they’re just too damn scared an angry Mohammedan will behead them right on the streets of London.

    • Stabby
      July 18, 2013 at 2:22 pm | #68

      In Texas it is now legal to carry a concealed brain.

      When will Rick Perry start?

  26. dwells38
    July 18, 2013 at 8:25 am | #69

    “This is actually very clever, in a not-very-clever way.”

    This is actually a very pointless sentence. Unless you have to hate the Zimmerman’s and so you can’t give him full points for cleverness. So the idea is clever, but the way it’s done is a not-very-clever way? How so? Is it unclever to bring this up on cable news shows? Where should he bring it up that’s more clever, dumbass? Tweet it and then do an ICYMI?

    Face it Chunk you’re a biased moron. Like Nancy Grace you decide to hate someone and now they’re evil incarnate no matter what. Why would you hate Robert Zimmerman? He’s done nothing wrong but defend a family member. And he’s usually rather eloquent, well spoken and credible unlike the Martin clan.

    • OLT’s Imitation Is The Sincerest Form Of Stalking
      July 18, 2013 at 9:01 am | #70

      It’s Stalker Charles lame-ass attempt at stealing the tense, complicated structure of one of my (*) Donkey Show sermons. As if, cracka please. I can’t even.

      * epic AND well-written, suitable for framing, collect the whole set

  27. Octopus
    July 18, 2013 at 9:21 am | #71

    Robert Zimmerman is actually Bob Dylan. He wrote a song back in the Sixties that turned out to be prophetic about Chunky’s careening career.

    You used to laugh about
    Everybody that was hangin’ out

    Now you don’t talk so loud
    Now you don’t seem so proud
    About having to be scrounging
    for your next meal.

    Another song he wrote around the same time describes the way former blogosphere allies feel about Fatass now, after his Moronic Conversion:

    I wish that for just one time
    You could stand inside my shoes
    And just for that one moment
    I could be you
    Yes, I wish that for just one time
    You could stand inside my shoes
    You’d know what a drag it is
    To see you.

  28. Octopus
    July 18, 2013 at 9:35 am | #72

    It’s a very sad and tragic day in Virginia, right, Chunky? :cry:

    Stock up on rusty coathangers, kids. The War On Womyn is at yer door.

    ——————————————————-
    JULY 17, 2013 4:14 PM
    Virginia’s Most Prolific Abortion Clinic Closes
    By Lindsey Grudnicki

    NOVA Women’s Healthcare in Fairfax County, Va., recently closed its doors for good in the wake of new state regulations. According to the Virginia Department of Health, NOVA performed 3,066 abortions in 2012 alone, making it the busiest in the state.

    The clinic’s lease had previously been terminated following a lawsuit brought by the building’s landlords, but its staff had been looking to re-open in a different location. NOVA’s request for a new building permit was denied in May because the space failed to meet city parking ordinances. The Fairfax City Council then amended its zoning laws in early July to require that all types of medical facilities obtain a special-use permit from the council, blocking future attempts to relocate. NOVA, however, had already decided to close up shop permanently, according to the Washington Post.

    NOVA reportedly had a history of substandard care and botched abortions, including at least one patient death and another emergency hospitalization. New Virginia laws requiring facilities that provide abortions to meet hospital-grade health and safety standards presumably contributed to the clinic’s decision to remain closed following its legal troubles. It is one of 30 abortion clinics to close this year, and pro-life laws across the country will likely cause that number to continue to increase. Of the 42 clinics in Texas, for instance, it has been estimated that 37 fail to meet the new regulations passed by the state legislature.

  29. Octopus
    July 18, 2013 at 9:38 am | #73

    I’m going back Up North today, so I won’t be able to attend yoga class on Saturday. I trust Pakimog will bring the bliss, as he has done so faithfully, despite his righteous fear of hairy, knuckle-dragging cavemen from Across Big River. Namaste. :)

    • rightymouse
      July 18, 2013 at 12:42 pm | #74

      I may not be here either. :(

    • Pakimon
      July 18, 2013 at 6:51 pm | #75

      Pakimog will be there bringing Saturday morning Sooper Happy Fun Time chock full of stretchy healthy bliss!

      Won’t be the same without rightymouse girl’s sharp-eyed critique and grooming tips. :sad:

      No matter! Videos be there for her to critique when she get back! :grin:

  30. Arachne
    July 18, 2013 at 9:40 am | #76

    Bunk X :

    Those weren’t her exact words. I think she said GZ was a “Homo” but that word was outlawed in 1976 or so.

    Jabba the star witness is really enjoying her 15 minutes of fame. She’s having a lovely time re-arranging history. Not that it even matters, I am willing to bet that she NEVER told the prosecution that whole “he thought he was a pervert” story.

    The interesting thing is that had Martin not been some wanna be thug, if he had been concerned over someone following him, he could have called the police (or 911 even) and he would have been told, no doubt (because Zimmerman had already called them), that the gentleman was the captain of neighborhood watch and believed he was acting suspiciously. At that point, Martin could have stopped, told Zimmerman that he was going back to his dad’s girlfriend’s house from the store and that would have been that.

    But no, instead he called the illiterate craptastic Rachel, who doesn’t tell him to call the cops, who instead feeds this pervert bullshit. And frankly, I don’t believe for one minute she told him to “run.” I think this dipshit told Martin to go back and beat up that “cracka” and teach him a lesson.

    • Because Milyo
      July 18, 2013 at 10:13 am | #77

      She has a 3.0. Can anybody at the swamp say that?

      • HaikuMan
        July 18, 2013 at 10:40 am | #78

        JeanTel’s three point oh
        Not a grade point average
        Perhaps her I.Q.?

    • dwells38
      July 18, 2013 at 10:50 am | #79

      I don’t understand how perjury works. She’d perjured herself earlier under oath about why she missed the TM funeral saying she was at the hospital when she wasn’t. And of course she clearly perjured herself about writing the letter. I also wonder about several in the Martin clan insisting it was TM shrieking “help!”. The story is ridiculous that he’s yelling for help while beating and bloodying a guy. And TMs father told cops it was NOT TMs voice. He was asked a direct Yes or No question and he’d said No previously. Then on stand he bullshits his way out by claiming he was too distraught to either understand the question or he meant “No, I can’t believe he’s dead” or somesuch but forgot to say the part after No. Obviously horseshit and the prosecution had informed everyone in the TM camp if that isn’t TM’s voice then it’s GZ’s and will help the DAs case. So….how do you want to answer that now? Why are they allowing clear lying in court, under oath. I thought that was a chargeable offense.

      • Because Milyo
        July 18, 2013 at 10:56 am | #80

        The short answer is, it’s a chargeable offense, but it’s only prosecuted if you’re a political enemy.

      • dwells38
        July 18, 2013 at 11:19 am | #81

        Yeah I guess it’s OK as long as they’re helping you railroad someone into life in prison with no evidence they broke any laws.

      • Because Milyo
        July 18, 2013 at 12:59 pm | #82

        Actually, the net effect of Jeantel’s testimony was quite helpful to the defense. The fact that she perjured herself only added to the help. I don’t think O’Mara wants to chase that squirrel. Overall, she was a gift, and she keeps on giving.

      • dwells38
        July 18, 2013 at 1:27 pm | #83

        Yeah I agree. Too I think it was clarified that she dictated the letter. So maybe they figure it’s overzealous to pursue considering their case went so well.

      • Arachne
        July 18, 2013 at 5:59 pm | #84

        In most cases, perjury is charged if it pertains to testimony materially relevant to the case. The funeral lie – not really pertinent; the voice on 9-1-1 is more a matter of perception than fact.

        Of course if you’re an LAPD Detective and your testimony isn’t relevant and they need to prove you’re a racist, well yes, charging you with perjury is important. Especially when you’re an incompetent D.A. and are using him as a scapegoat as to why you lost the case.

    • July 18, 2013 at 2:43 pm | #85

      Yea I was thinking about that the other day. Chances are better that the subject of beating Zimmerman up came up in some form during their long conversation. Easy to conveniently omit that part, of course.

  31. trebob
    July 18, 2013 at 1:02 pm | #86

    OK, since Gary and RM will be absent this weekend, I want to add my pitiful attempt at giving Ocky something to approve of, RM something without hair or cellulite showing and Pakimog something, well, something he would certainly enjoy.

    All for you guys!

    • trebob
      July 18, 2013 at 1:03 pm | #87

      Oh and Beed! Take notes.

      • beeeeeeed
        July 18, 2013 at 5:31 pm | #88

        Sure, she looks like that now, but in fifty years she’ll be a write-off. Mark my words.

    • dwells38
      July 18, 2013 at 1:28 pm | #89

      She’s tastefully hot!

      • Because Milyo
        July 18, 2013 at 2:34 pm | #90

        As opposed to flaming hot cheetos…

    • Pakimon
      July 18, 2013 at 5:58 pm | #91

      Pakimog like bouncy, bright and perky. :grin:

  32. Stabby
    July 18, 2013 at 1:38 pm | #92

    He is convinced that the Obama administration is spying on his family via the NSA. This is a reasonable fear to anyone except the Obama Loyalist.

    Oh God, what utter bullshit.

    Daedalus, you’re a nut.

    • beeeeeeed
      July 18, 2013 at 5:34 pm | #93

      IT IS ENTRELY REOSENABLE!!!

      HE ID NO NUTTER!!

      FUCK!!!

      • Stabby
        July 18, 2013 at 6:15 pm | #94

        :3

        fank ewe, eye em konvincet

    • Arachne
      July 18, 2013 at 6:02 pm | #95

      Stabby :

      There isn’t evidence that the IRS was partisan, though there’s lots of evidence that the hearings that tried to make a show trial of the IRS were partisan.

      Except that they admitted it and that they are refusing to testify without immunity.

  33. Stabby
    July 18, 2013 at 2:01 pm | #96

    Let’s make this explicit.

    The NSA details have been nothing surprising. Some data, say metadata, is stored in a database and a few times a year (what was it 33 times in 2012) the FISA court has approved that data being queried in national security cases.

    Other instances have been ones where, pursuant to a warrant, internet companies have turned over data about suspects. The NSA leaks showed little more than what mechanisms are used to transport the data.

    Now YOU’RE saying that “the Obama administration” is using “the NSA” to spy on people who are not “Obama Loyalists”.

    Lol what?

    So you’re implying that those FISA court warrants are NOT issued in for cases of national security, to homeland security agents (and so on) investigating terrorist threats, they’re issued to The Whitehouse, to Obama, so that he can spy on people who aren’t loyal to him personally?

    Are you schizophrenic? Do you regularly swallow your tongue during mad spells? What the fuck is wrong with you? There isn’t the first hint of abuse of NSA surveillance for political purpose, nor any signs that the Obama administration ever takes risks – they play it safe because Obama is under more scrutiny than any president in history as every paranoid racist in America goes to bed mumbling his name, has fever dreams of the collapse of civilization and wakes up every morning covered in sweat ready to start a new day of saving America from the usurper.

    • trebob
      July 18, 2013 at 2:46 pm | #97

      Not to put words in Daedalus’ mouth (he doesn’t need me), but I think what he’s saying is that the regime is spying on everybody, but the Obama loyalists are so enthralled by the man that they don’t care. Are you honestly going to try to convince an Obama loyalist that all this NSA foolishness will be fine when it’s President Sarah Palin and NSA director Rudy Guliani doing it with Republican majorities in the House and Senate? You’re 100% OK with that right?

      • Voltaire’s Crack
        July 18, 2013 at 3:04 pm | #98

        Especially when you see stuff like this

        I’m waiting to hear that this reporter is one of those fever dreamer paranoid racist name mumbler sorts.

        The NSA Admits It Analyzes More People’s Data Than Previously Revealed

        As an aside during testimony on Capitol Hill today, a National Security Agency representative rather casually indicated that the government looks at data from a universe of far, far more people than previously indicated.

        Chris Inglis, the agency’s deputy director, was one of several government representatives—including from the FBI and the office of the Director of National Intelligence—testifying before the House Judiciary Committee this morning. Most of the testimony largely echoed previous testimony by the agencies on the topic of the government’s surveillance, including a retread of the same offered examples for how the Patriot Act and Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act had stopped terror events.

        But Inglis’ statement was new. Analysts look “two or three hops” from terror suspects when evaluating terror activity, Inglis revealed. Previously, the limit of how surveillance was extended had been described as two hops. This meant that if the NSA were following a phone metadata or web trail from a terror suspect, it could also look at the calls from the people that suspect has spoken with—one hop. And then, the calls that second person had also spoken with—two hops. Terror suspect to person two to person three. Two hops. And now: A third hop.

        Think of it this way. Let’s say the government suspects you are a terrorist and it has access to your Facebook account. If you’re an American citizen, it can’t do that currently (with certain exceptions)—but for the sake of argument. So all of your friends, that’s one hop. Your friends’ friends, whether you know them or not—two hops. Your friends’ friends’ friends, whoever they happen to be, are that third hop. That’s a massive group of people that the NSA apparently considers fair game.
        http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/07/nsa-admits-it-analyzes-more-peoples-data-previously-revealed/67287/

    • dwells38
      July 18, 2013 at 3:03 pm | #99

      The politicization and blatant partisan actions of the IRS, the DOJ and EPA aren’t slight hints that this could also be the case at the NSA? What are you smoking?

      • Voltaire’s Crack
        July 18, 2013 at 3:06 pm | #100

        Better be careful or you’ll be reported on the DOJ’s George Zimmerman Tip Line, which only exists in our racist minds.

      • Stabby
        July 18, 2013 at 4:59 pm | #101

        There isn’t evidence that the IRS was partisan, though there’s lots of evidence that the hearings that tried to make a show trial of the IRS were partisan.

      • ISpeakJive
        July 19, 2013 at 12:16 am | #102

        Of course there is evidence. Criminy.

  34. Stabby
    July 18, 2013 at 2:17 pm | #103

    The 10 topics on Wikipedia with the most revert-wars.

    In English it’s:
    1 George W Bush
    2 Anarchism
    3 Muhammad
    4 List of World Wrestling Entertainment, Inc. employees
    5 Global Warming
    6 Circumcision
    7 United States
    8 Jesus
    9 Race and intelligence
    10 Christianity

    They found it useful to group languages into 3 sets but:
    They say that, in general, major religions and religious figures as well as articles related to anti-Semitism and Israel are highly contested in many languages. In particular: “The articles Israel, Adolf Hitler, The Holocaust and God are highly contested in all the three language sets,” they report.

    So Israel and antisemitism are controversies in all of the language sets they chose.

    http://www.technologyreview.com/view/517101/edit-wars-reveal-the-10-most-controversial-topics-on-wikipedia/

  35. Because Milyo
  36. OLT’s Ad Hominem
    July 18, 2013 at 3:13 pm | #107

    dwells38 :
    The politicization and blatant partisan actions of the IRS, the DOJ and EPA aren’t slight hints that this could also be the case at the NSA? What are you smoking?

    I can’t tell, due to the grey wrapper.

  37. OLT’s Nice Gravatar; Got Any Cake?
    July 18, 2013 at 3:14 pm | #108

    meganorlowskirussell :
    That is a very strange theory.

    He’s a very strange blogger, our Stalker Charles.

  38. OLT’s Nice Gravatar; Got Any Cake?
    July 18, 2013 at 3:20 pm | #109

    Because Milyo :
    Hey Beed.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/audrey-shulman/sitting-in-bars-with-cake_b_3581293.html

    Oh, my.

    Looking for “boys” to turn into “husbands” – Mistake #1

    Looking in a bar – Mistake #2

    Things she’s doing right:

    Taking friends. Friends can help you make good choices or crappy ones. Don’t take your crappy friends.

    Taking it slow (apparently). The divorce rate is already over 50%.

    • Because Boobies!!!!!
      July 18, 2013 at 3:32 pm | #110

      Also doing right: cake. Cake is good.

      • trebob
        July 18, 2013 at 3:48 pm | #111

        I disagree, it should be bacon. Bacon would be better for finding husbands than cake. With cake you get Beed.

      • beeeeeeed
        July 18, 2013 at 4:41 pm | #112

        Yes. I’ll fuck anybody carrying a cake.

    • OLT’s Because Age Of My #1 Daughter
      July 18, 2013 at 3:52 pm | #113

      Yes, I forgot.

      Other thing’s she’s doing right:

      Putting cake with beer. Sharp, sharp young woman.

      Things I am too old to ask her:

      Whether she has bacon and ass.

      • Because Boobies!!!!!
        July 18, 2013 at 5:01 pm | #114

        They all have ass. Bacon is optional, but I’ve never met one yet without ass. Very few don’t have boobs, either.

  39. Juan Epstein
    • dwells38
      July 18, 2013 at 3:56 pm | #116

      Bet all the haters are Obama voters too:

      Here’s President Barack Obama essentially outlining his own beliefs in support of creationism back in 2008. At the time, during a CNN debate, Campbell Brown asked the then-candidate, “Senator, if one of your daughters asked you — and maybe they already have — ‘Daddy, did God really create the world in 6 days?,’ what would you say?” Here’s Obama’s response:

      “I’m trying to remember if we’ve had this conversation. You know, what I’ve said to them is that I believe that God created the universe and that the six days in the Bible may not be six days as we understand it, it may not be 24-hour days, and that’s what I believe. I know there’s always a debate between those who read the Bible literally and those who don’t, and that I think it’s a legitimate debate within the Christian community of which I’m a part. My belief is that the story that the Bible tells about God creating this magnificent Earth on which we live — that is essentially true, that is fundamentally true. Now, whether it happened exactly as we might understand it reading the text of the Bible. That, I don’t presume to know.”

  40. Voltaire’s Crack
    July 18, 2013 at 3:50 pm | #117

    Has anyone seen a report that the New Black Panthers are offering a 10K reward for the capture of Zimmerman? It’s sounds too incredible to be true.

    • dwells38
      July 18, 2013 at 3:57 pm | #118

      Next Eric Holder will offer them funding to make an educational PSA video about it.

    • dwells38
      July 18, 2013 at 4:32 pm | #119

      It’s called domestic terrorism. They’d already issued the militant black version of a fatwa. But ya know the FBI have their hands full with all those Tea Party menacers.

  41. OLT’s Because Shulman
    July 18, 2013 at 4:02 pm | #120

    trebob :
    I disagree, it should be bacon. Bacon would be better for finding husbands than cake. With cake you get Beed.

    It’s cake and beer.

    She’s withholding bacon (and I hope, ass) for a commitment.

    No casual bacon. She is not a pork slut.

    Although her surname makes me think Al Sharpton may hate her AND there may be no bacon.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shulman

    • trebob
      July 18, 2013 at 4:11 pm | #121

      You could be right and I wouldn’t want to step on any religious tenants. However, there may be a loophole. Outside of Texas, where you think BBQ comes from cows, bacon is used not really as a pork product but more like a vegetable. You can add it to your burger or chicken sammy, you know, beef, lettuce, tomato, bacon, cheese. So it might be Kosher. :)

      • Because Bacon Flavored Milyo
        July 18, 2013 at 5:05 pm | #122

        If you’re going to be treif, you might as well go all the way. A bacon lobster cheeseburger.

    • dwells38
      July 18, 2013 at 4:23 pm | #123

      “Although her surname makes me think Al Sharpton may hate her AND there may be no bacon.”

      Oh you mean a white hispanic Nazi?

  42. OLT’s Because The $1 Million Reward Offer In March Was Racist
    July 18, 2013 at 4:08 pm | #124

    Voltaire’s Crack :
    Has anyone seen a report that the New Black Panthers are offering a 10K reward for the capture of Zimmerman? It’s sounds too incredible to be true.

    That noted right-wing propaganda organ, The Christian Science Monitor, claims it was on a flier.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2012/0327/New-Black-Panthers-offer-reward-for-George-Zimmerman.-Who-are-they

  43. dwells38
    July 18, 2013 at 4:30 pm | #125
    • Because Bacon
      July 18, 2013 at 5:06 pm | #126

      Until their Priuses get all car-b-qued.

  44. Shit Bitch Please
    July 18, 2013 at 5:20 pm | #127

    Stabby :
    There isn’t evidence that the IRS was partisan, though there’s lots of evidence that the hearings that tried to make a show trial of the IRS were partisan.

    I realize you do not do research or fact checking, but surely you didn’t miss that the IRS admitted they targeted conservative groups?

    • Because Bacon
      July 18, 2013 at 5:26 pm | #128

      Is that thang a bot?

      • Arachne
        July 18, 2013 at 6:07 pm | #129

        And ill-informed one. Probably read Fatass’s expose that ONE liberal group had it’s 401(c)(3) application denied. And that was because it didn’t meet the criteria.

        And let’s not forget Obama’s kick-ass con-artist relative, who not only got his 401(c)(3) approved right away, without any paperwork, and got it backdated beyond the 18-month limit so that he wouldn’t have to give the money back. Now, of course, none of his supposed addresses pan out.

    • Voltaire’s Crack
      July 18, 2013 at 5:32 pm | #130

      Prediction: “But they targeted progressive groups too!”.

    • beeeeeeed
      July 18, 2013 at 5:42 pm | #131

      I target conservatives too. With my screwdriver of rightiousness.

      • Pakimon
        July 18, 2013 at 6:11 pm | #132

        I’m sure the screwdriver of righteousness comes in handy when prying open your bra clasp after eating too much lutefisk.

      • beeeeeeed
        July 18, 2013 at 6:16 pm | #133

        All this talk of ‘clasp’ makes me hungry. Or horny. It’s the same feeling.

      • Pakimon
        July 18, 2013 at 6:30 pm | #134

        Hungry and horny for:

        A) Bacon

        B) Lutefisk

        C) Cake

        D) All of the above

      • beeeeeeed
        July 18, 2013 at 6:34 pm | #135

        Hungry for A), B) and D), horny for C).

      • Pakimon
        July 18, 2013 at 6:43 pm | #136

        If you’re horny for C), I’ve heard that bundt cake is the way to go.

        Or a doughnut if you’re strapped for time and cash.

  45. Because Bacon
    July 18, 2013 at 5:27 pm | #137

    As if Chuck’s ever had a BJ…

    • beeeeeeed
      July 18, 2013 at 5:56 pm | #138

      Chuck says giving is better than receiving, though this has never been scientifically proven.

      • Pakimon
        July 18, 2013 at 6:08 pm | #139

        Chunkles receives butthurt and is given rumpswab.

        Might not be scientifically proven but that’s Chunkles’ fault for giving the esteemed scientist and slut shamer Ludwig the boot.

      • beeeeeeed
        July 18, 2013 at 6:14 pm | #140

        How is Ludwig? Where is he now?

        And does not Charles think it is strange that, at one point, he will always consider the people who strongly agrees with him as fucking nuts and ban them?

      • Pakimon
        July 18, 2013 at 6:23 pm | #141

        I don’t know what happened to Ludwig.

        Sure miss his slut shaming antics though… :sad:

  46. Daedalus
    July 18, 2013 at 5:36 pm | #142

    Stabby :

    He is convinced that the Obama administration is spying on his family via the NSA. This is a reasonable fear to anyone except the Obama Loyalist.

    Oh God, what utter bullshit.

    Daedalus, you’re a nut.

    You really are naive and do not understand the nature of the Obama regime. Holder has Zimmerman mark and it would not be shocking if the government is tracking him, in case they file chargres.

    Let me ask you a question, You once said Charles was nt into conspiracy theories. Charles is claiming that Robert Zimmerman is trying to win the support of Glenn Greenwald. Is this not a conspiracy theory?

    • beeeeeeed
      July 18, 2013 at 5:40 pm | #143

      Short answer: No

      Long answer: It is called ‘speculation’

      • Pakimon
        July 18, 2013 at 6:03 pm | #144

        Speculation makes gas prices go up.

      • dwells38
        July 18, 2013 at 9:46 pm | #145

        No that’s something the doctor sticks up your hoo-ha.

    • trebob
      July 18, 2013 at 5:46 pm | #146

      It’s weird that Stabby doesn’t see the danger in the D.O.J. setting up a fishing expedition email box for one shooting in the state of Florida. This is the power of the U.S. government getting involved in one shooting in a little town to focus it’s energy trying to punish this one guy. Yet, the over 600 people that have been murdered since that shooting…*crickets*

      Where’s their hotline? Why are they not important? Why are their deaths meaningless to the politicians in Washington?

      • beeeeeeed
        July 18, 2013 at 5:50 pm | #147

        It’s because shit became symbolic. That’s not necessarily govt’s fault, but they have to deal with it, I guess.

      • Arachne
        July 18, 2013 at 6:03 pm | #148

        Especially when the F.B.I. already conducted an investigation, interviewed scores of people and said “there is no ‘there’ there.”

      • dwells38
        July 18, 2013 at 9:49 pm | #149

        It’s beginning to be clear our black government leaders are declaring war on whites and throwing hispanics in there for good measure.

  47. beeeeeeed
    July 18, 2013 at 5:38 pm | #150

    I see some of our new friends make the mistake of actually reading past the headlines here at the DoD. Please don’t do that. It makes us look like idiots.

    • Pakimon
      July 18, 2013 at 6:05 pm | #151

      Idiots with snazzy purses and a keen eye for the latest fashionable footwear.

      • beeeeeeed
        July 18, 2013 at 6:07 pm | #152

        You noticed!

      • Pakimon
        July 18, 2013 at 6:31 pm | #153

        Always watchful for cutting edge fashion and footwear.

  48. Daedalus
    July 18, 2013 at 5:43 pm | #154

    Stabby :

    Let’s make this explicit.

    The NSA details have been nothing surprising. Some data, say metadata, is stored in a database and a few times a year (what was it 33 times in 2012) the FISA court has approved that data being queried in national security cases.

    Other instances have been ones where, pursuant to a warrant, internet companies have turned over data about suspects. The NSA leaks showed little more than what mechanisms are used to transport the data.

    Now YOU’RE saying that “the Obama administration” is using “the NSA” to spy on people who are not “Obama Loyalists”.

    Lol what?

    So you’re implying that those FISA court warrants are NOT issued in for cases of national security, to homeland security agents (and so on) investigating terrorist threats, they’re issued to The Whitehouse, to Obama, so that he can spy on people who aren’t loyal to him personally?

    Are you schizophrenic? Do you regularly swallow your tongue during mad spells? What the fuck is wrong with you? There isn’t the first hint of abuse of NSA surveillance for political purpose, nor any signs that the Obama administration ever takes risks – they play it safe because Obama is under more scrutiny than any president in history as every paranoid racist in America goes to bed mumbling his name, has fever dreams of the collapse of civilization and wakes up every morning covered in sweat ready to start a new day of saving America from the usurper.

    You are so full of shit that I think your toilet is clogged. Obama is the least scrutinized President in American history. He can murder a child on live TV and the media will say nothing. His Conservative critics is viewed as loons by people like you and the mainstream media. Any Conservative criticism of Obama is laughed at and mocked. They are harmless criticism that have no effect.

    Greenwald being a man of the Left has damaged Obama because he is not a Conservative. The Right has no power to even scrutinize Obama who has the media, popular culture and fools like you that believe he is some saintly man who can do no wrong. Hence Obama is the least scrutinize President in history.

    • Stabby
      July 18, 2013 at 6:25 pm | #155

      The right WOULD have the power to scrutinize Obama and get listened to if they hadn’t spent the last 4+years shitting their pants and losing their credibility.

      Anyway part of the problem is that they do have total credibility among themselves, no matter how mad they seem to the non-hysterical – and total self-imposed disconnect from a bit more than half the public. So the problem isn’t lack of credibility, it’s a self-impose unmoring from all rational standards and from just enough of the public that you can’t win this way.

      I spent a long time on right wing sites watching the madness. … It was unbelievable. I had thought that nothing could be as bad as BDS. I was wrong.

      • beeeeeeed
        July 18, 2013 at 6:29 pm | #156

        Hernia is worse. Cancerous liver is worse. A pregnant 13-year old daughter is worse. Kenny G is worse. Oasis 3rd album is worse. Gum losing it’s flavor after first chew is worse. In fact, most things are worse.

      • Pakimon
        July 18, 2013 at 6:34 pm | #157

        Buying the most stylish footwear and it pinching your feet is worse.

        So is a favorite snazzy purse clashing with a new dress.

      • Shit Bitch Please, LOL
        July 18, 2013 at 8:19 pm | #158

        You blew your credibility here in what? Two days, Mr. I Can’t Be Bothered To Fact Check?

  49. beeeeeeed
    July 18, 2013 at 5:45 pm | #159

    The reason for carrying a screwdriver is quite simple: One gives the impression of fixing things while stabbing some conservative in the eye.

    • Pakimon
      July 18, 2013 at 6:00 pm | #160

      If you carry a screwdriver in your pocket, Senor Testiculo gets very nervous.

      You wouldn’t like Senor Testiculo when he’s nervous.

    • trebob
      July 18, 2013 at 6:19 pm | #161

      I thought you’d named your genitalia ‘screwdriver’.

      • beeeeeeed
        July 18, 2013 at 6:24 pm | #162

        No, I call my five genitalia ‘Bo’, ‘Hubert’, ‘Samson’ and ‘Desiree’.

      • Pakimon
        July 18, 2013 at 6:36 pm | #163

        Five gentalia?

        Do you have three boobs like that mutant chick in Total Recall?

        Enquiring minds want to know!

      • Because Bacon
        July 18, 2013 at 6:54 pm | #164

        Four balls and a bat. Grand slam.

  50. Pakimon
    July 18, 2013 at 6:19 pm | #165

    Look at Chunky! He’s being so smug and coy. You just know he’s eating up that Daily Beast fuckup like a family sized bag of Cheetos.

    ‘Cause you know of course he could be a best selling author if he wanted to… :lol:

    • ElSuerte
      July 18, 2013 at 11:32 pm | #166

      This has got to be post worthy

  51. trebob
    July 18, 2013 at 6:25 pm | #167

    beeeeeeed :
    It’s because shit became symbolic. That’s not necessarily govt’s fault, but they have to deal with it, I guess.

    Except here it’s the state of Florida who should be working on this shooting not D.C.. It didn’t cross state lines and the Federal government has no business in it.

  52. trebob
    July 18, 2013 at 6:26 pm | #168

    beeeeeeed :
    No, I call my five genitalia ‘Bo’, ‘Hubert’, ‘Samson’ and ‘Desiree’.

    That’s only four, unless you used a name more than once.

    • beeeeeeed
      July 18, 2013 at 6:31 pm | #169

      I have two ‘Huberts’ and three ‘Bos’. That makes five you IDIOT.

    • Pakimon
      July 18, 2013 at 6:39 pm | #170

      beed gets sensitive if you neglect his third boob.

      Uh oh.

      I just neglected a few “e” s in his name.

      I’m in for it now! :lol:

    • Because Bacon
      July 18, 2013 at 6:56 pm | #171

      True story. I just went by a local market today. The sign outside said “2 day sale – Friday Saturday Sunday”.

  53. Because Bacon
    July 18, 2013 at 6:50 pm | #172

    Arachne :
    Especially when the F.B.I. already conducted an investigation, interviewed scores of people and said “there is no ‘there’ there.”

    If they can’t find any ‘there’, they’ll make some ‘there’. Just watch.

  54. Because Bacon
    July 18, 2013 at 6:52 pm | #173

    Daedalus :

    Stabby :
    You are so full of shit that I think your toilet is clogged.

    Aren’t you confusing Stabby with Icarus?

  55. July 18, 2013 at 7:09 pm | #174

    one Stabby is a pet….millions of Stabby’s are a disease

  56. Because Bacon
    July 18, 2013 at 7:15 pm | #175

    Well, shit. This kind of harshes the narrative.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/07/18/charles-barkley-i-don-t-think-media-has-pure-heart-or-clean-hands-whe#ixzz2ZRI8CwmD

    So who’s right? Charles Barkley, or Charles Johnson?

  57. trebob
    July 18, 2013 at 7:17 pm | #176

    beeeeeeed :
    [...] Kenny G is worse [...]

    Fuckin-A Bubba

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